Batshit crazy fundamentalists want revenge on non-believers
4 Reasons Right-Wing Christians Salivate for the End Times
People like Michele Bachmann and Pat Robertson seem to yearn for the apocalypse.
October 11, 2013 |
While there’s much about the Christian right that’s difficult for the rest of us to understand, the preoccupation with the “end times” is close to the top of the list. The situation in Syria seems to be having the odd effect of amplifying this already strange tendency of fundamentalist Christians to cast around looking for evidence that they will be witness to the apocalypse. One-third of Americans believes that the Syrian conflict portends the end of the world.
What makes this even weirder is how many of them want this to be true. While speaking to Jan Markell on the radio show, “Understanding the Times,” Rep. Michele Bachmann predicted that the conflict in Syria was a sign that the world was going to end, because the President was arming rebels in that country: “This happened and as of today the United States is willingly, knowingly, intentionally sending arms to terrorists, now what this says to me, I’m a believer in Jesus Christ, as I look at the end times scripture, this says to me that the leaf is on the fig tree and we are to understand the signs of the times, which is your ministry, we are to understand where we are in God’s end times history.”
While she didn’t come out and say it, the implication was crystal clear to the audience: President Obama is the Antichrist and his actions are going to kickstart the final battle between good and evil that will bring the end of the world. While most of us would be alarmed if we thought we were facing down the apocalypse and a worldwide war that will kill millions, Bachmann can’t wait: “Rather than seeing this as a negative, we need to rejoice, Maranatha Come Lord Jesus, His day is at hand.”
Bachmann isn’t alone in this belief that the end of days is something to be desired. Three out of four evangelicals believe Christ will return soon. This is, of course, mostly wishful thinking—they believe they’re seeing the end of the world because they want to see the end of the world. Why would anyone want that, when the Bible they believe in predicts it will be mass murder, hellfire, and every grotesque thing imaginable? Here are some reasons.
1. They don’t think they’ll be around for the worst of it. Modern American fundamentalist Christians believe in something that has never before been part of Christian tradition: the Rapture. The idea is that the true believers will be whisked away into heaven before the ugly parts of the end times begin. The idea was invented in the 19th century but only took off in the late 20th century because of pop culture products like the Left Behind series. As Christian writer and critic of evangelical culture Fred Clark explained, it’s an “escapist fantasy” and a way to avoid having to consider the possibility that they may die.
Christian writers don’t really hide that this is what’s going on with end times hope. As blogger Nathan Jones said, “It is an amazing hope to have because we can know that as terrible as it is getting out there, believers in Christ don’t have much longer to worry about it.”
2. The end of the world would mean they get to have the last word. One thing that’s indisputable is that if the apocalypse does come and it unspools as Christians predicted, they will have won the argument! As Doug Weaver, a professor of religion at Baylor, explained to the Washington Post, “I think history will tell you that end time predictions increase when people are being persecuted or feel persecuted.”
While conservative Christians are most definitely not being persecuted, watching their privileges decline often makes them feel persecuted. When you feel put upon, mocked and persecuted, the desire to show your opponents you were right all along can become overwhelming. So much so, that you’re willing to wish for a fiery apocalypse just so you can say I told you so.
3. It provides a distraction from and an excuse to avoid the real problems in the world. The appeal of apocalypse fantasies is mainly that they help believers avoid the fear of death. (A secular version of this can be found in zombie apocalypse stories, which work because the audience identifies with the survivors, not the people who die, i.e. zombies.) However, belief that the end times are near is used by conservatives all the time to direct their followers politically.
That’s what Bachmann was doing in that interview, using the belief in the end times to turn the audience against Obama and against his choices in Syria, without having to engage a real debate about what’s really going on. The prediction that the apocalypse is near has been used to defend everything from indifference to environmental concerns to opposition to Obamacare to preferred right-wing policies in the Middle East.
4. They want to see the non-believers punished and themselves instated as the rightful rulers of all mankind. In 1980 , Pat Robertson laid out this hope bluntly, predicting that World War III and the end times were upon us, saying, “sorrow and bloodshed that will have no end soon, for the world is being torn apart, and my kingdom shall rise from the ruins of it.”
Or as Fred Clark said in his criticisms of the apocalypse fantasy books in the Left Behind series, “The authors’ real message for those they regard as unsaved is to thumb their nose and do a little victory dance.”
This eagerness to see the non-believers punished is so strong in the Christian right that many are unwilling to wait until the so-called “Tribulation” described in the Left Behind books, and to a lesser degree the Bible, is upon us. That’s why, after any great tragedy, there is a rush of eager-beaver pastors willing to say this is what people have coming for being sinners, from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson blaming “pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians” for 9/11 to John Hagee blaming the devastation of Hurricane Katrina on gay pride parades.
All of this is why someone who considers herself a good, loving Christian like Michele Bachmann can stand up and declare that the end of the world and all the violence predicted in the Bible is something to “rejoice” at. The popular hymn may state that “they will know we are Christians by our love,” but when it comes to right-wing fundamentalists, a better bet to know them is by their apocalyptic revenge fantasies.
“Pat Robertson laid out this hope bluntly, predicting that World War III and the end times were upon us, saying, “sorrow and bloodshed that will have no end soon, for the world is being torn apart, and my kingdom shall rise from the ruins of it.””: But not before you’ve had sex with a stripper in a hotel room.http://youtu.be/-1z9jkKf-Vo
It has happened to me, I’m being ostracised for not marching to the fundies’ tune. The B&B friend is a friend no more because of my neighbours’ badmouthing and complaining about my high walls. It doesn’t matter to her that the woman who lived on my property before me had exactly the same treatment dished out to her. The irony that she, too, is a woman living on her own, is lost on her. She must stick it then.
These people are living in mediaeval times. The woman before me had her cat poisoned by the fundie neighbours. I have been threatened, and my dogs have been threatened. To throw poisoned meat to my dogs from their side of the wall would be tricky because I have made the walls very high with spikes that will slash a person’s hands if you try anything up there.
The legal position is tricky because they have not threatened to harm me physically, only to ruin my reputation and make my life hell. How these people call themselves Christians is beyond my understanding.
Come to think of it, I don’t really care what the B&B ex-“friend” thinks or says, nor do I care about the opinions of the two desperadoes in my street. If people descend to that level they lead truly pathetic lives. My dogs are safe in the back garden. I don’t let them out in the front garden without me. But it’s going to cost me quite a chunk of money to replace the palisade boundary fence in the front garden with a high wall. I’ll have to remove the hedge I’ve been growing there in the mistaken belief that this would send a signal that I would like some privacy. Palisade fence fronting street in front garden will have to be replaced with a brick wall and the grill gates replaced with solid gates. Sort of like Joburg comes to the countryside. In Joburg nobody talks about you unless you’re a celebrity; you arm your property to the teeth against violent intruders. In the countryside you just need one or two backstabbing fundies in your vicinity to make you want to keep the moat stocked up with sharks and to pull up the drawbridge.
This kid was lucky to escape. In rural South Africa his “bad” reputation would have followed him 50 km away. This is what I’m living next door to. They will simply not stop because they are convinced that their way is the only way. It will come down to a legal confrontation eventually.
Polish Exchange Student in US: My Half-Year of Hell With Christian Fundamentalists
When Polish student Michael Gromek, 19, went to America on a student exchange, he found himself trapped in a host family of Christian fundamentalists. What followed was a six-month hell of dawn church visits and sex education talks as his new family tried to banish the devil from his soul. Here’s his story.
“When I got out of the plane in Greensboro in the US state of North Carolina, I would never have expected my host family to welcome me at the airport, wielding a Bible, and saying, ‘Child, our Lord sent you half-way around the world to bring you to us.’ At that moment I just wanted to turn round and run back to the plane.
Things began to go wrong as soon as I arrived in my new home in Winston-Salem, where I was to spend my year abroad. For example, every Monday my host family would gather around the kitchen table to talk about sex. My host parents hadn’t had sex for the last 17 years because — so they told me — they were devoting their lives to God. They also wanted to know whether I drank alcohol. I admitted that I liked beer and wine. They told me I had the devil in my heart.
My host parents treated me like a five-year-old. They gave me lollipops. They woke me every Sunday morning at 6:15 a.m., saying ‘Michael, it’s time to go to church.’ I hated that sentence. When I didn’t want to go to church one morning, because I had hardly slept, they didn’t allow me to have any coffee.
One day I was talking to my host parents about my mother, who is separated from my father. They were appalled — my mother’s heart was just as possessed by the devil as mine, they exclaimed. God wanted her to stay with her husband, they said.
“God’s will”
Then, seeing as we were already on the topic of God’s will, the religious zealots finally brought up a subject which had clearly been on their minds for a long time: They wanted me to help them set up a Fundamentalist Baptist church in my home country of Poland. It was God’s will, they said. They tried to slip the topic casually into conversation, but it really shocked me — I realized that was the only reason they had welcomed me into their family. They had already started construction work in Krakow — I was to help them with translations and with spreading their faith via the media.
It was clear to me that there was no way I was going to do that. The family was appalled. It was a weird situation. After all, these people were my only company at the time. If I hadn’t kept in touch with home through e-mail, I might have been sucked into that world.
It was only after four months that I decided to change my host family. I had kept hoping that things might improve, but it was futile. Telling them that I wanted to go was the most unpleasant moment I experienced in that half year. Of course they didn’t understand — how could they? They had grown up with their faith and were convinced of it, and then suddenly I turned up and refused to fit in.
From that moment on, I counted the days. The two months that followed my decision were hell. My host parents detested me. There were constant rows. I could sense that they just wanted to get rid of me. They didn’t know what to do with me any more.
67 days later, I was finally in a new family. They were young, actually more friends than host parents, and I was very happy there. Because my new family was only 50 kilometers away from the other one, I was distrustful at first and afraid that things wouldn’t be any better. But the change was worth it.
Despite everything, I still haven’t come to terms with my experience. I want to write to the religious family soon and explain to them, clearly and calmly, why things went so wrong. It shouldn’t just end this way.” [Poster’s note: trying to tell people like this why things went wrong would have no effect whatsoever.]
Adapted from an interview conducted by Magdalena Blender.
Goeie more almal ek open vir ons almal met gebed. Mag julle almal geseend wees. In Christus se naam. Ha! Ha! I’m just joking! I had you there for a second.
Your dream of world depopulation finally come true. I don’t care where fundies get raptured away to, as long as they disappear. http://youtu.be/_mJY0hTdfV4
Casper de Vries is ook nie meer gewild onder die fundies nie.
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Casper de Vries se godslaster
Na afloop van verlede week Sondag 17 Junie tot 23 Junie se hoofberig: Die hel is los! – Christene is briesend oor Casper se godslaster. Sondag is oorval met SMS’e van woedende lesers wat Casper se kop behoorlik was. In die berig het ene Marita op Facebook vir Casper gesê sy sal vir hom bid. Hy het daarna so teenoor haar uitgevaar: “O God, ek het ’n paar k*nte vergeet… k*nt, k*nt, k*nt, k*nt, k*nt.” En toe: “Ou Jesus Darling het NIE EERS BESTAAN NIE – hy’s ’n mite wat uitgedink is JAAARE nadat hy kamstig tussen die Jode was.”So het julle gereageer:
Casper, ek is steeds baie lief vir jou. Ek het wel nou al jou CD’s en DVD’s vernietig, want ek is ook baie lief vir Jesus en kan nie verder ‘n aanhanger van jou wees nie. Ek bid vir jou. Karien
Casper, ons dink jou ou grappe is ‘n fokop net soos jy. Hou op spot met die Here. Tweeling, Limpopo
Sies Casper de Vries, jou vuilgat. Hou jou bek van Christene af. Respekteer ander se doen en late. Jou voorland is braai in die hel. Kom tot jou sinne, jou vuilgat. Sandra
De Vries, jy is ‘n satanskind, jou moersk*nt. Peet Platteland
Casper de Vries, wees gewaarsku: Die Here waarsku ons dat daar nie plek is in sy koninkryk vir spotters nie. MAA
Casper, jou dae is getel met die Here, ou bra. Al jou geld gaan jou nie red nie, jou voorland is ewige hel, jou dom ateïs. Jy is ‘n slegte slang vir witmense. Jy en Juju is dalk broers, jou moer. As ek jou kan kry, sal jy hard bid na Onse Vader. Anoniem
Jou dwergagtige, oorgewig en varkgesigagtige muildoos. Dit is tyd dat jy jouself gaan vrekvries in die middel van die hel! Anti-ateïs
Casper, ons bid ook vir sulke simpele dose soos jy. Arme jy. Sal ‘n skande wees as enige Christen ooit weer geld so sal mors om na die clown te gaan kyk, komaan, belowe jouself! Dis nie ‘n vark in hel nie, dis Casper in die hel. Lekker brand, jou vark. Pieter, Bethal, Mpumalanga
Jy weet, De Vries, God laat nie met hom spot nie. Jy’s ‘n vark. Anoniem
Jou ma het die nageboorte grootgemaak en die kind weggegooi. God laat nie met hom spot nie. Anoniem
Jou vark! Jou Judas, mag jy jou oë in die hel oopmaak! Hoe durf jy my Jesus so beledig! Jy is varkbollie! Anoniem
Mag my Jesus jou vergewe, De Vries. Anoniem
Casper, jy is die vark in die hel, niemand lag vir jou nie. Mag jy ondergaan. Was dit nie vir ons God nie, was jy nie hier nie. Ons sal jou boikot sover ons kan. Bly weg van Witbank. Anoniem
Ja, ou Casper Rasper, jou oë sal dalk oopgaan. Hoop dis nie te laat. Hans
Casper se godslasterlike uitlatings laat mens net meer en meer besef hoe groot God se genade regtig is en dat hy ons almal bomenslik lief het. Anoniem
Shame Casper, jyﾒt sopas jou eie keel afgesny met jou uitlatings. Hoop jy het genoeg geld om af te tree, want jou dae is getel. Jy is so common soos gras. Mag jy stadig verstik in jou woorde! Anoniem
Ek het nog nooit van De Vries se woordeskat gehou nie, maar nou het hy te ver gegaan. Die Bybel sê dit is verskriklik om in die hande van die lewende God te val. Ek en my vriende in Christus sal vir hom bid. Drikus, Kempton Park
Arme ou Cassie. As hy so vloek en skel, probeer hy maar net wys hoe groot hy is, maar dit help niks. Hy het nou klaar bewys hoe klein hy is. Oom Jan
Ons mense word elke dag uitgemoor en so ook boere op hul plase, maar kommin kak soos Casper de Vries loop nog rond! Anoniem
Ek het nog nooit van Casper de Vries gehou nie. Nou weet ek hoekom nie. Hy sal eendag agterkom waaroor Christene vir Jesus aanhang, dan gaan dit te laat wees. Antoinette
Ek gaan vir seker vir my ﾒn kaartjie koop na Satan de Vries se show toe en hom uit sy vetgatlyfie uit moer! Gemors! Jones, Alberton
Caper de Vries, wat jy kort is dat iemand jou in die hospitaal inbliksem, jou vieslike vuil klein trens! Willem
Kan iemand vir Casper de Vries vertel dat dit nie die publiek se skuld is dat hy ‘n dikgat moffie is met ‘n kortmannetjie-sindroom nie. Om so godslasterlik te praat, gaan mooi fokkol aan die saak verander. Hy moet liewer sy kaaskop-voorouers vloek oor die kak gene wat hy in hom het. Kom mense, kom ons boikot al sy “shows” en wys die drolsmous ‘n punt. Sinoniem
Casper is’ﾒn vark. Ek het nie vir hom tyd nie. Mag hy eendag brand. Hy is uit die bose uit. Petrus, Ermelo
Ou Cassie, Saulus was ook maar so klein voor hy Paulus geword het. Oom Faan
Marita, jy en jou 400 ondersteuners op Facebook wat Casper de Vries wil boikot, moet dalk besin. Kom ons almal bid vir Casper. Hy is ‘n verlore siel! Christina Jacobs, Virginia
Casper, jy is van die duiwel besete. Mag daar nie ‘n dag kom dat jy ons Jesus gaan nodig kry en hy vir jou sê jammer ek ken jou nie. Jy het beslis die Christene geskok en teleurgestel. Mag God jou genadig wees. Anoniem
Arme Casper, ek voel so bitter jammer vir jou. Jou lewe is baie leeg sonder Jesus. Ek bid dat jy ook nog in jou lewe die wonderlike liefde van Jesus sal ervaar. Mag God jou genadig wees. Van Oupa Edward
Ek dink mens moet Casper uitlos. Mense glo net in wat die dominees sê en gaan soek nie self die geskiedenis in hul ‘geloof’ nie! Dit is juis wat dit is – ‘n geloof. Dis nie altyd feite nie! Als wat in Varkinhel gesê is, is die waarheid dat ons geloof uit ander gelowe bestaan, maar self kies ek nog steeds om ‘n Christen te bly. Keuses is waaroor dit gaan. Casper is ‘n intelligente mens en ek respekteer hom daarvoor. Mens kry jou keuses in die lewe en mens kry jou gevolge. Anoniem
Ek sal ‘n graad 8-dogtertjie bring wat Casper ‘n klap kan gee dat hy huil soos ‘n kind. Dan wil die siek ding met ons groot God spot. Ek was al saam met ander kunstenaars in sy huis en daar het ek gesien hoe siek is hy. Ek hoop mense word wakker en kyk na geen van sy gemorsproduksies nie. Hansie Kruger
Casper is maar net ‘n vark. Koos
Ek hoop van harte dat die liewe Heer jou sal uitsort en so ook die media (koerante, tydskrifte & TV ens) dat gemors soos jy net uitgelos sal word om in jou eie kak wat jy praat te verstik. Jou vark. Johan
Casper, jy is pleinweg ‘gemors’. As jy nie weet wat om te sê nie, hou dan jou vrot bek! Estelle, Piet Retief
Enigeen wat dink Casper Rasper de Vries is vol humor en oulik, is net so ‘n pateet soos hy. Wesens soos hy en Julius Malema moet soos in die Bybelse tyd na die buitewyke van die stad gedwing en op ‘n brandstapel verbrand of gestenig word. Hulle is sout wat laf geword het en ﾒn steen des aanstoots vir die samelewing. Hy moet eintlik vir sy ouers kwaad wees omdat hulle hom grootgemaak het, want hy’s nie net lelik en skeef nie, hy’ss nog dom ook. Arme skepsel. Moenie as jy ‘n swak selfbeeld het die Christendom die skuld gee nie. Hang ‘n meulsteen om jou nek en spring in die see dat jy versuip, want jy’s so grillerig, die haaie sal jou nie eens vreet nie. Verdwyn net asb. Ouma Rina, Waverley
Ek het die hel gesien. Daar is baie mense daar met Casper se menings. Dit is waar dat baie Christene die Here se naam deur die modder sleep, maar hulle word nie vrygespreek nie. Elize Coetzee
Casper de Vries is ﾒn verleentheid vir enige Suid-Afrikaner. Hy het die swakste selfbeeld denkbaar! Sal niks ondersteun waarby hy betrokke is nie! Anoniem
Casper sal in die hel brand. Baie fans het vergeet van die ou klein vetgat. Anoniem
EN TOE?????
Ek het Casper de Vries baie gespyker in die 80ﾒs. Toe was dit nog De Vries De Vries, nou is dit Casper Deap Freez. Jou dikgat, los die Bybel uit as jy aandag soek. Oom Bone
Casper de Vries, dis verkeerd. Dis Casper se Breintjie is Gevries. Kry oë op jou skouers, en kyk waar jy loop jellybabe, jy’t nou te ver gegaan. Jy hoort nie op ‘n verhoog nie, maar wel in die hel, en so ook almal wat jou ondersteun. Ek vra almal asb. boikot die klein vark. Spinnekop, Polekwane
You suck! May you burn in hell. Anoniem
Ag shame ou Caspertjie, dat jy nou godslasterlik moet raak net om aandag te kry. Jy is ‘n klein vet pateet, jou arme ding. Anoniem
Casper de Vries, jou moer. Ek betaal jou koste ten volle Klerksdorp toe. Dan wys ek jou hoe bliksem ek daai vuil bek toe.
Herman de Beer
Die vet vuil ding sal in die hel gaan brand. Sy ma moes hom doodgelê het, die misgeboorte. Anoniem
McBrolloks 
Very touching. I didn’t know Charlie Chaplin could be serious, but then he was always a champion for the underdog.
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Batshit crazy fundamentalists want revenge on non-believers
4 Reasons Right-Wing Christians Salivate for the End Times
People like Michele Bachmann and Pat Robertson seem to yearn for the apocalypse.
October 11, 2013 |
While there’s much about the Christian right that’s difficult for the rest of us to understand, the preoccupation with the “end times” is close to the top of the list. The situation in Syria seems to be having the odd effect of amplifying this already strange tendency of fundamentalist Christians to cast around looking for evidence that they will be witness to the apocalypse. One-third of Americans believes that the Syrian conflict portends the end of the world.
What makes this even weirder is how many of them want this to be true. While speaking to Jan Markell on the radio show, “Understanding the Times,” Rep. Michele Bachmann predicted that the conflict in Syria was a sign that the world was going to end, because the President was arming rebels in that country: “This happened and as of today the United States is willingly, knowingly, intentionally sending arms to terrorists, now what this says to me, I’m a believer in Jesus Christ, as I look at the end times scripture, this says to me that the leaf is on the fig tree and we are to understand the signs of the times, which is your ministry, we are to understand where we are in God’s end times history.”
While she didn’t come out and say it, the implication was crystal clear to the audience: President Obama is the Antichrist and his actions are going to kickstart the final battle between good and evil that will bring the end of the world. While most of us would be alarmed if we thought we were facing down the apocalypse and a worldwide war that will kill millions, Bachmann can’t wait: “Rather than seeing this as a negative, we need to rejoice, Maranatha Come Lord Jesus, His day is at hand.”
Bachmann isn’t alone in this belief that the end of days is something to be desired. Three out of four evangelicals believe Christ will return soon. This is, of course, mostly wishful thinking—they believe they’re seeing the end of the world because they want to see the end of the world. Why would anyone want that, when the Bible they believe in predicts it will be mass murder, hellfire, and every grotesque thing imaginable? Here are some reasons.
1. They don’t think they’ll be around for the worst of it. Modern American fundamentalist Christians believe in something that has never before been part of Christian tradition: the Rapture. The idea is that the true believers will be whisked away into heaven before the ugly parts of the end times begin. The idea was invented in the 19th century but only took off in the late 20th century because of pop culture products like the Left Behind series. As Christian writer and critic of evangelical culture Fred Clark explained, it’s an “escapist fantasy” and a way to avoid having to consider the possibility that they may die.
Christian writers don’t really hide that this is what’s going on with end times hope. As blogger Nathan Jones said, “It is an amazing hope to have because we can know that as terrible as it is getting out there, believers in Christ don’t have much longer to worry about it.”
2. The end of the world would mean they get to have the last word. One thing that’s indisputable is that if the apocalypse does come and it unspools as Christians predicted, they will have won the argument! As Doug Weaver, a professor of religion at Baylor, explained to the Washington Post, “I think history will tell you that end time predictions increase when people are being persecuted or feel persecuted.”
While conservative Christians are most definitely not being persecuted, watching their privileges decline often makes them feel persecuted. When you feel put upon, mocked and persecuted, the desire to show your opponents you were right all along can become overwhelming. So much so, that you’re willing to wish for a fiery apocalypse just so you can say I told you so.
3. It provides a distraction from and an excuse to avoid the real problems in the world. The appeal of apocalypse fantasies is mainly that they help believers avoid the fear of death. (A secular version of this can be found in zombie apocalypse stories, which work because the audience identifies with the survivors, not the people who die, i.e. zombies.) However, belief that the end times are near is used by conservatives all the time to direct their followers politically.
That’s what Bachmann was doing in that interview, using the belief in the end times to turn the audience against Obama and against his choices in Syria, without having to engage a real debate about what’s really going on. The prediction that the apocalypse is near has been used to defend everything from indifference to environmental concerns to opposition to Obamacare to preferred right-wing policies in the Middle East.
4. They want to see the non-believers punished and themselves instated as the rightful rulers of all mankind. In 1980 , Pat Robertson laid out this hope bluntly, predicting that World War III and the end times were upon us, saying, “sorrow and bloodshed that will have no end soon, for the world is being torn apart, and my kingdom shall rise from the ruins of it.”
Or as Fred Clark said in his criticisms of the apocalypse fantasy books in the Left Behind series, “The authors’ real message for those they regard as unsaved is to thumb their nose and do a little victory dance.”
This eagerness to see the non-believers punished is so strong in the Christian right that many are unwilling to wait until the so-called “Tribulation” described in the Left Behind books, and to a lesser degree the Bible, is upon us. That’s why, after any great tragedy, there is a rush of eager-beaver pastors willing to say this is what people have coming for being sinners, from Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson blaming “pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians” for 9/11 to John Hagee blaming the devastation of Hurricane Katrina on gay pride parades.
All of this is why someone who considers herself a good, loving Christian like Michele Bachmann can stand up and declare that the end of the world and all the violence predicted in the Bible is something to “rejoice” at. The popular hymn may state that “they will know we are Christians by our love,” but when it comes to right-wing fundamentalists, a better bet to know them is by their apocalyptic revenge fantasies.
From here: http://www.alternet.org/belief/4-reasons-right-wing-christians-salivate-end-times?page=0%2C1
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“Pat Robertson laid out this hope bluntly, predicting that World War III and the end times were upon us, saying, “sorrow and bloodshed that will have no end soon, for the world is being torn apart, and my kingdom shall rise from the ruins of it.””: But not before you’ve had sex with a stripper in a hotel room.http://youtu.be/-1z9jkKf-Vo
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In similar vein, from Angus Buchan, another old fart throwback.
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What’s with the Shalom Ministries? Eh?
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It has happened to me, I’m being ostracised for not marching to the fundies’ tune. The B&B friend is a friend no more because of my neighbours’ badmouthing and complaining about my high walls. It doesn’t matter to her that the woman who lived on my property before me had exactly the same treatment dished out to her. The irony that she, too, is a woman living on her own, is lost on her. She must stick it then.
These people are living in mediaeval times. The woman before me had her cat poisoned by the fundie neighbours. I have been threatened, and my dogs have been threatened. To throw poisoned meat to my dogs from their side of the wall would be tricky because I have made the walls very high with spikes that will slash a person’s hands if you try anything up there.
The legal position is tricky because they have not threatened to harm me physically, only to ruin my reputation and make my life hell. How these people call themselves Christians is beyond my understanding.
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Come to think of it, I don’t really care what the B&B ex-“friend” thinks or says, nor do I care about the opinions of the two desperadoes in my street. If people descend to that level they lead truly pathetic lives. My dogs are safe in the back garden. I don’t let them out in the front garden without me. But it’s going to cost me quite a chunk of money to replace the palisade boundary fence in the front garden with a high wall. I’ll have to remove the hedge I’ve been growing there in the mistaken belief that this would send a signal that I would like some privacy. Palisade fence fronting street in front garden will have to be replaced with a brick wall and the grill gates replaced with solid gates. Sort of like Joburg comes to the countryside. In Joburg nobody talks about you unless you’re a celebrity; you arm your property to the teeth against violent intruders. In the countryside you just need one or two backstabbing fundies in your vicinity to make you want to keep the moat stocked up with sharks and to pull up the drawbridge.
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Oh, and these bitches’ husbands are both Angus Buchan groupies.
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This kid was lucky to escape. In rural South Africa his “bad” reputation would have followed him 50 km away. This is what I’m living next door to. They will simply not stop because they are convinced that their way is the only way. It will come down to a legal confrontation eventually.
Polish Exchange Student in US: My Half-Year of Hell With Christian Fundamentalists
When Polish student Michael Gromek, 19, went to America on a student exchange, he found himself trapped in a host family of Christian fundamentalists. What followed was a six-month hell of dawn church visits and sex education talks as his new family tried to banish the devil from his soul. Here’s his story.
“When I got out of the plane in Greensboro in the US state of North Carolina, I would never have expected my host family to welcome me at the airport, wielding a Bible, and saying, ‘Child, our Lord sent you half-way around the world to bring you to us.’ At that moment I just wanted to turn round and run back to the plane.
Things began to go wrong as soon as I arrived in my new home in Winston-Salem, where I was to spend my year abroad. For example, every Monday my host family would gather around the kitchen table to talk about sex. My host parents hadn’t had sex for the last 17 years because — so they told me — they were devoting their lives to God. They also wanted to know whether I drank alcohol. I admitted that I liked beer and wine. They told me I had the devil in my heart.
My host parents treated me like a five-year-old. They gave me lollipops. They woke me every Sunday morning at 6:15 a.m., saying ‘Michael, it’s time to go to church.’ I hated that sentence. When I didn’t want to go to church one morning, because I had hardly slept, they didn’t allow me to have any coffee.
One day I was talking to my host parents about my mother, who is separated from my father. They were appalled — my mother’s heart was just as possessed by the devil as mine, they exclaimed. God wanted her to stay with her husband, they said.
“God’s will”
Then, seeing as we were already on the topic of God’s will, the religious zealots finally brought up a subject which had clearly been on their minds for a long time: They wanted me to help them set up a Fundamentalist Baptist church in my home country of Poland. It was God’s will, they said. They tried to slip the topic casually into conversation, but it really shocked me — I realized that was the only reason they had welcomed me into their family. They had already started construction work in Krakow — I was to help them with translations and with spreading their faith via the media.
It was clear to me that there was no way I was going to do that. The family was appalled. It was a weird situation. After all, these people were my only company at the time. If I hadn’t kept in touch with home through e-mail, I might have been sucked into that world.
It was only after four months that I decided to change my host family. I had kept hoping that things might improve, but it was futile. Telling them that I wanted to go was the most unpleasant moment I experienced in that half year. Of course they didn’t understand — how could they? They had grown up with their faith and were convinced of it, and then suddenly I turned up and refused to fit in.
From that moment on, I counted the days. The two months that followed my decision were hell. My host parents detested me. There were constant rows. I could sense that they just wanted to get rid of me. They didn’t know what to do with me any more.
67 days later, I was finally in a new family. They were young, actually more friends than host parents, and I was very happy there. Because my new family was only 50 kilometers away from the other one, I was distrustful at first and afraid that things wouldn’t be any better. But the change was worth it.
Despite everything, I still haven’t come to terms with my experience. I want to write to the religious family soon and explain to them, clearly and calmly, why things went so wrong. It shouldn’t just end this way.” [Poster’s note: trying to tell people like this why things went wrong would have no effect whatsoever.]
Adapted from an interview conducted by Magdalena Blender.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/polish-exchange-student-in-us-my-half-year-of-hell-with-christian-fundamentalists-a-448350.html
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Check it out ! a taste of their own crappy medicine !!!!!
for shits & giggles …
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Brilliant! Good to have you here again, Juliet.
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Goeie more almal ek open vir ons almal met gebed. Mag julle almal geseend wees. In Christus se naam. Ha! Ha! I’m just joking! I had you there for a second.
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Your dream of world depopulation finally come true. I don’t care where fundies get raptured away to, as long as they disappear. http://youtu.be/_mJY0hTdfV4
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Casper de Vries is ook nie meer gewild onder die fundies nie.
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Casper de Vries se godslaster
Na afloop van verlede week Sondag 17 Junie tot 23 Junie se hoofberig: Die hel is los! – Christene is briesend oor Casper se godslaster. Sondag is oorval met SMS’e van woedende lesers wat Casper se kop behoorlik was. In die berig het ene Marita op Facebook vir Casper gesê sy sal vir hom bid. Hy het daarna so teenoor haar uitgevaar: “O God, ek het ’n paar k*nte vergeet… k*nt, k*nt, k*nt, k*nt, k*nt.” En toe: “Ou Jesus Darling het NIE EERS BESTAAN NIE – hy’s ’n mite wat uitgedink is JAAARE nadat hy kamstig tussen die Jode was.”So het julle gereageer:
Casper, ek is steeds baie lief vir jou. Ek het wel nou al jou CD’s en DVD’s vernietig, want ek is ook baie lief vir Jesus en kan nie verder ‘n aanhanger van jou wees nie. Ek bid vir jou. Karien
Casper, ons dink jou ou grappe is ‘n fokop net soos jy. Hou op spot met die Here. Tweeling, Limpopo
Sies Casper de Vries, jou vuilgat. Hou jou bek van Christene af. Respekteer ander se doen en late. Jou voorland is braai in die hel. Kom tot jou sinne, jou vuilgat. Sandra
De Vries, jy is ‘n satanskind, jou moersk*nt. Peet Platteland
Casper de Vries, wees gewaarsku: Die Here waarsku ons dat daar nie plek is in sy koninkryk vir spotters nie. MAA
Casper, jou dae is getel met die Here, ou bra. Al jou geld gaan jou nie red nie, jou voorland is ewige hel, jou dom ateïs. Jy is ‘n slegte slang vir witmense. Jy en Juju is dalk broers, jou moer. As ek jou kan kry, sal jy hard bid na Onse Vader. Anoniem
Jou dwergagtige, oorgewig en varkgesigagtige muildoos. Dit is tyd dat jy jouself gaan vrekvries in die middel van die hel! Anti-ateïs
Casper, ons bid ook vir sulke simpele dose soos jy. Arme jy. Sal ‘n skande wees as enige Christen ooit weer geld so sal mors om na die clown te gaan kyk, komaan, belowe jouself! Dis nie ‘n vark in hel nie, dis Casper in die hel. Lekker brand, jou vark. Pieter, Bethal, Mpumalanga
Jy weet, De Vries, God laat nie met hom spot nie. Jy’s ‘n vark. Anoniem
Jou ma het die nageboorte grootgemaak en die kind weggegooi. God laat nie met hom spot nie. Anoniem
Jou vark! Jou Judas, mag jy jou oë in die hel oopmaak! Hoe durf jy my Jesus so beledig! Jy is varkbollie! Anoniem
Mag my Jesus jou vergewe, De Vries. Anoniem
Casper, jy is die vark in die hel, niemand lag vir jou nie. Mag jy ondergaan. Was dit nie vir ons God nie, was jy nie hier nie. Ons sal jou boikot sover ons kan. Bly weg van Witbank. Anoniem
Ja, ou Casper Rasper, jou oë sal dalk oopgaan. Hoop dis nie te laat. Hans
Casper se godslasterlike uitlatings laat mens net meer en meer besef hoe groot God se genade regtig is en dat hy ons almal bomenslik lief het. Anoniem
Shame Casper, jyﾒt sopas jou eie keel afgesny met jou uitlatings. Hoop jy het genoeg geld om af te tree, want jou dae is getel. Jy is so common soos gras. Mag jy stadig verstik in jou woorde! Anoniem
Ek het nog nooit van De Vries se woordeskat gehou nie, maar nou het hy te ver gegaan. Die Bybel sê dit is verskriklik om in die hande van die lewende God te val. Ek en my vriende in Christus sal vir hom bid. Drikus, Kempton Park
Arme ou Cassie. As hy so vloek en skel, probeer hy maar net wys hoe groot hy is, maar dit help niks. Hy het nou klaar bewys hoe klein hy is. Oom Jan
Ons mense word elke dag uitgemoor en so ook boere op hul plase, maar kommin kak soos Casper de Vries loop nog rond! Anoniem
Ek het nog nooit van Casper de Vries gehou nie. Nou weet ek hoekom nie. Hy sal eendag agterkom waaroor Christene vir Jesus aanhang, dan gaan dit te laat wees. Antoinette
Ek gaan vir seker vir my ﾒn kaartjie koop na Satan de Vries se show toe en hom uit sy vetgatlyfie uit moer! Gemors! Jones, Alberton
Caper de Vries, wat jy kort is dat iemand jou in die hospitaal inbliksem, jou vieslike vuil klein trens! Willem
Kan iemand vir Casper de Vries vertel dat dit nie die publiek se skuld is dat hy ‘n dikgat moffie is met ‘n kortmannetjie-sindroom nie. Om so godslasterlik te praat, gaan mooi fokkol aan die saak verander. Hy moet liewer sy kaaskop-voorouers vloek oor die kak gene wat hy in hom het. Kom mense, kom ons boikot al sy “shows” en wys die drolsmous ‘n punt. Sinoniem
Casper is’ﾒn vark. Ek het nie vir hom tyd nie. Mag hy eendag brand. Hy is uit die bose uit. Petrus, Ermelo
Ou Cassie, Saulus was ook maar so klein voor hy Paulus geword het. Oom Faan
Marita, jy en jou 400 ondersteuners op Facebook wat Casper de Vries wil boikot, moet dalk besin. Kom ons almal bid vir Casper. Hy is ‘n verlore siel! Christina Jacobs, Virginia
Casper, jy is van die duiwel besete. Mag daar nie ‘n dag kom dat jy ons Jesus gaan nodig kry en hy vir jou sê jammer ek ken jou nie. Jy het beslis die Christene geskok en teleurgestel. Mag God jou genadig wees. Anoniem
Arme Casper, ek voel so bitter jammer vir jou. Jou lewe is baie leeg sonder Jesus. Ek bid dat jy ook nog in jou lewe die wonderlike liefde van Jesus sal ervaar. Mag God jou genadig wees. Van Oupa Edward
Ek dink mens moet Casper uitlos. Mense glo net in wat die dominees sê en gaan soek nie self die geskiedenis in hul ‘geloof’ nie! Dit is juis wat dit is – ‘n geloof. Dis nie altyd feite nie! Als wat in Varkinhel gesê is, is die waarheid dat ons geloof uit ander gelowe bestaan, maar self kies ek nog steeds om ‘n Christen te bly. Keuses is waaroor dit gaan. Casper is ‘n intelligente mens en ek respekteer hom daarvoor. Mens kry jou keuses in die lewe en mens kry jou gevolge. Anoniem
Ek sal ‘n graad 8-dogtertjie bring wat Casper ‘n klap kan gee dat hy huil soos ‘n kind. Dan wil die siek ding met ons groot God spot. Ek was al saam met ander kunstenaars in sy huis en daar het ek gesien hoe siek is hy. Ek hoop mense word wakker en kyk na geen van sy gemorsproduksies nie. Hansie Kruger
Casper is maar net ‘n vark. Koos
Ek hoop van harte dat die liewe Heer jou sal uitsort en so ook die media (koerante, tydskrifte & TV ens) dat gemors soos jy net uitgelos sal word om in jou eie kak wat jy praat te verstik. Jou vark. Johan
Casper, jy is pleinweg ‘gemors’. As jy nie weet wat om te sê nie, hou dan jou vrot bek! Estelle, Piet Retief
Enigeen wat dink Casper Rasper de Vries is vol humor en oulik, is net so ‘n pateet soos hy. Wesens soos hy en Julius Malema moet soos in die Bybelse tyd na die buitewyke van die stad gedwing en op ‘n brandstapel verbrand of gestenig word. Hulle is sout wat laf geword het en ﾒn steen des aanstoots vir die samelewing. Hy moet eintlik vir sy ouers kwaad wees omdat hulle hom grootgemaak het, want hy’s nie net lelik en skeef nie, hy’ss nog dom ook. Arme skepsel. Moenie as jy ‘n swak selfbeeld het die Christendom die skuld gee nie. Hang ‘n meulsteen om jou nek en spring in die see dat jy versuip, want jy’s so grillerig, die haaie sal jou nie eens vreet nie. Verdwyn net asb. Ouma Rina, Waverley
Ek het die hel gesien. Daar is baie mense daar met Casper se menings. Dit is waar dat baie Christene die Here se naam deur die modder sleep, maar hulle word nie vrygespreek nie. Elize Coetzee
Casper de Vries is ﾒn verleentheid vir enige Suid-Afrikaner. Hy het die swakste selfbeeld denkbaar! Sal niks ondersteun waarby hy betrokke is nie! Anoniem
Casper sal in die hel brand. Baie fans het vergeet van die ou klein vetgat. Anoniem
EN TOE?????
Ek het Casper de Vries baie gespyker in die 80ﾒs. Toe was dit nog De Vries De Vries, nou is dit Casper Deap Freez. Jou dikgat, los die Bybel uit as jy aandag soek. Oom Bone
Casper de Vries, dis verkeerd. Dis Casper se Breintjie is Gevries. Kry oë op jou skouers, en kyk waar jy loop jellybabe, jy’t nou te ver gegaan. Jy hoort nie op ‘n verhoog nie, maar wel in die hel, en so ook almal wat jou ondersteun. Ek vra almal asb. boikot die klein vark. Spinnekop, Polekwane
You suck! May you burn in hell. Anoniem
Ag shame ou Caspertjie, dat jy nou godslasterlik moet raak net om aandag te kry. Jy is ‘n klein vet pateet, jou arme ding. Anoniem
Casper de Vries, jou moer. Ek betaal jou koste ten volle Klerksdorp toe. Dan wys ek jou hoe bliksem ek daai vuil bek toe.
Herman de Beer
Die vet vuil ding sal in die hel gaan brand. Sy ma moes hom doodgelê het, die misgeboorte. Anoniem
http://sondag.co.za/casper-de-vries-se-godslaster/
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Casper de Vries se fan mail vannie fundies. So liefdevol.
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