Liewe jesus ondersteun nie die Bokke gedurende hierdie world cup nie. As ons arme nasie dink bid gaan ons help om die world cup te wen…….. Julle kan maar bid, maar die wind waai wes.


Div: Springboks must turn to the Lord

2015-09-21 15:56

Peter de Villiers (Gallo Images)

Cape Town – Former Springbok coach Peter de Villiers has given current coach Heyneke Meyer some advice for the rest of the Rugby World Cup.

De Villiers spoke to eNCA on Sunday following the Boks’ humiliating 34-32 Rugby World Cup loss to Japan in Brighton the previous day.

When asked what advice he had for the Bok coach for the remainder of the tournament, De Villiers responded: “The only advice I can give him and anybody: ‘If you’re not close to the Lord, if you’re not close to your knees, you don’t know where your strength comes from’.

“If you rely on people around you, if you rely on yourself, you’re going to get worse and worse… you must go back, asking: ‘What are my strengths? What made me, me? What is your will through me?’

“And get to that as quick as possible and get the team to follow that.”

De Villiers, 58, coached the Springboks between 2008 and 2011.

South Africa’s next match is against Samoa at Villa Park Birmingham on Saturday (17:45 SA time).

13 thoughts on “Liewe jesus ondersteun nie die Bokke gedurende hierdie world cup nie. As ons arme nasie dink bid gaan ons help om die world cup te wen…….. Julle kan maar bid, maar die wind waai wes.

  1. Ons ou volkie sal enige dom poepol in ‘n leierskap posisie sit. Enigste vereiste, loop met ‘n bybel onder die arm rond. Want die gotte en liewe jesus sal mos vir almal sorg wat in hulle glo en hulle mag vrees. Gin wonder die wiele kom orals af nie. En ons oplossing: Bid harder, glo meer. Boere bid langs die snelwegte, die bokke gaan nou harder bid in plaas van om ‘n beter afrigter te kies. BTW, ek dink nie dit sal moeilik wees om ‘n beter afrigter op te spoor nie. Die fokken probleem is net waar de fokken fok kry jy ‘n wereld klas afrigter wat met ‘n fokken bybel onder sy arm mee rondloop????? Net in Suid Afrika, dis waar. So ons sal onself maar beperk tot mense toe wat ‘n veetjies en spoke glo. Die res van die wereld lag vir ons! Mens kan nie hierdie kak self uitdink nie!


  2. Hi Mac, good to see you’re still around. Regarding the above, i wonder if someone pointed out to Helium Divvie that 1) Heyneke is a first class godiot, so is half the team, including the cripple captain and old man Matty; and 2) Japanese are a secular bunch.

    Divvie and Heyneke must surely count as the two coaches with the lowest IQ On the international scene. …even when combined.


    • Oupa de Villiers en Matfield is darem nou nie meer in die span nie. Indien SA teen Wallis wen, hoop ek nie Matfield maak weer n terugkeer nie. Lood de Jager speel goed. Ek hoop ou Meyer los nou sy obsessie met die ou manne. Die span soos hy nou is, is die beste wat daar is. Meyer moet nou sy kop gebruik. Hierdie span het die beste kans om te wen dink ek.


  3. Gerhardus jy skryf:
    “wanneer gaan dit tot jou deurdring dat ons nie ons konsepte van gotte op julle projekteer nie” . . .?
    Jou ego dink seker dis nou weer ‘n slim ding om te sê, kiek dem ien de teef cliché, jy is oneerlik en as jy dalk die komments hier bo lees van Mad Mac en mallies is dit presies wat hulle doen, hulle projekteer hul eie konsep van God op ander mense, vol van haat en nyd en boosgeid en dis die “lig” in hulle lewens . . .?(Of dink jy mad Mac het “bad” sjt gerook en Malliis het die toppunt verwaandheids graad bereik of dink hy hy kan nog hoër gaan . . .?)

    Dit blyk dat die atijoote ook min van rugby af weet net soos hul kritiek op die musiek bedryf – “wys” hulle maar net dat al wat hulle regtig WIL doen is om te reageer op watter stimuli ook al in hul psige inkom met ‘n beterweterige ongeërgde houding.

    Ek begin dink ek het julle gefaal, dit blyk of Mad Mac al meer agteruitgaan


  4. Let’s stop this total Insanity…….

    List of (some) Christian evangelist scandals

    1.Aimee Semple McPherson, 1920s–40s

    One of the most famous evangelist scandals involved Canadian-born Aimee Semple McPherson in the 1920s, who allegedly had an extramarital relationship and faked her own death as a cover. She later claimed that she had been kidnapped, but a grand jury could neither prove that a kidnapping occurred, nor that she had faked it. Roberta Semple Salter, her daughter from her first marriage, became estranged from Semple McPherson and successfully sued her mother’s attorney for slander during the 1930s. As a result of this she was cut out of her mother’s will. Aimee Semple McPherson died in 1944 from an accidental overdose of barbiturates.

    2.Lonnie Frisbee, 1970s–1980s

    Lonnie Frisbee was an American closeted gay Pentecostal evangelist and self-described “seeing prophet” in the late 1960s and 1970s who despite his “hippie” appearance had notable success as a minister and evangelist. Frisbee was a key figure in the Jesus Movement and was involved in the rise of two worldwide denominations (Calvary Chapel and the Vineyard Movement). Both churches later disowned him because of his active homosexuality, removing him first from leadership positions, then ultimately firing him. He eventually died from AIDS in 1993.

    3. Billy James Hargis, early 1970s

    Hargis was a prolific author and radio evangelist. Hargis formed American Christian College in 1971 in order to teach fundamentalist Christian principles. However, a sex scandal erupted at the College, involving claims that Hargis had had sex with male and female students. Hargis was forced out of American Christian College’s presidency as a result. Further scandals erupted when members of Hargis’ youth choir, the “All American Kids”, accused Hargis of sexual misconduct as well. The college eventually closed down in the mid-1970s. Hargis denied the allegations publicly.

    4. Marjoe Gortner, early 1970s

    Gortner rose to fame in the late 1940s as a child preacher, but he had simply been trained to do this by his parents and he had no personal faith. He was able to perform “miracles” and received large amounts of money in donations. After suffering a crisis of conscience, he invited a film crew to accompany him on a final preaching tour. The resulting film, Marjoe, mixes footage of revival meetings with Gortner’s explanations of how evangelists manipulate their audiences. It won the 1972 Academy Award for Best Documentary Feature, but was never screened in the Southern United States due to fears that it would cause outrage in the Bible Belt..

    Jim & Tammy Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart, 1986 and 1991

    Swaggart’s confession where he declared to his congregation on television, “I have sinned against you, my Lord”, became an iconic image of the 1980s[2]
    In 1986, evangelist Jimmy Swaggart began on-screen attacks against fellow televangelists Marvin Gorman and Jim Bakker. He uncovered Gorman’s affair with a member of Gorman’s congregation, and also helped expose Bakker’s infidelity (which was arranged by a colleague while on an out-of-state trip).[3] These exposures received widespread media coverage. Gorman retaliated in kind by hiring a private investigator to uncover Swaggart’s own adulterous indiscretions with a prostitute.[4] Swaggart was subsequently forced to step down from his pulpit for a year and made a tearful televised apology in February 1988 to his congregation, saying “I have sinned against you, my Lord, and I would ask that your precious blood would wash and cleanse every stain until it is in the seas of God’s forgiveness.”[5][6]
    Swaggart was caught again by California police three years later in 1991 with another prostitute, Rosemary Garcia, who was riding with him in his car when he was stopped for driving on the wrong side of the road. When asked why she was with Swaggart, she replied, “He asked me for sex. I mean, that’s why he stopped me. That’s what I do. I’m a prostitute.”[7]

    6.Peter Popoff, 1987

    A self-proclaimed prophet and faith healer in the 1980s, Popoff’s ministry went bankrupt in 1987 after magician and skeptic James Randi and Steve Shaw debunked his methods by showing that instead of receiving information about audience members from supernatural sources, he received it through an in-ear receiver.[8]

    7. Morris Cerullo, 1990s

    A number of incidents involving California-based televangelist Morris Cerullo caused outrage in the United Kingdom during the 1990s. Cerullo’s claims of faith healing were the focus of particular concern. At a London crusade in 1992, he pronounced a child cancer sufferer to be healed, yet the girl died two months later. Multiple complaints were upheld against satellite television channels transmitting Cerullo’s claims of faith-healing, and a panel of doctors concluded that Cerullo’s claims of miraculous healing powers could not be substantiated. Cerullo also produced fund-raising material, which was condemned as unethical by a number of religious leaders, as it implied that giving money to his organisation would result in family members becoming Christians.[9]

    8.Mike Warnke, 1991

    Warnke was a popular Christian evangelist and comedian during the 1970s and 1980s. He claimed in his autobiography, The Satan Seller (1973), that he had once been deeply involved in a Satanic cult and was a Satanic priest before converting to Christianity. In 1991, Cornerstone magazine launched an investigation into Warnke’s life and testimony. It investigated Warnke’s life, from interviews with over one hundred personal friends and acquaintances, to his ministry’s tax receipts. Its investigation turned up damaging evidence of fraud and deceit. The investigation also revealed the unflattering circumstances surrounding Warnke’s multiple marriages, affairs, and divorces. Most critically, however, the investigation showed how Warnke could not possibly have done the many things he claimed to have done throughout his nine-month tenure as a Satanist, much less become a drug-addicted dealer or become a Satanic high priest.

    9. Robert Tilton, 1991

    Tilton is an American televangelist who achieved notoriety in the 1980s and early 1990s through his paid television program Success-N-Life. At its peak, it aired in all 235 American TV markets. In 1991, Diane Sawyer and ABC News conducted an investigation of Tilton. The investigation, broadcast on ABC’s Primetime Live on November 21, 1991, found that Tilton’s ministry threw away prayer requests without reading them, keeping only the money or valuables sent to them by viewers, garnering his ministry an estimated $80 million USD a year. In the original investigation, one of Tilton’s former prayer hotline operators claimed that the ministry cared little for desperate followers who called for prayer, saying that Tilton had a computer installed in July 1989 to make sure that the phone operators were off the line in seven minutes. Tilton sued ABC for libel in 1992, but the case was dismissed in 1993, and Tilton’s show was off the air by October 30, 1993.

    10. W. V. Grant, 1996 and 2003

    Like Peter Popoff, Grant was investigated by James Randi regarding his faith healing claims. He was then imprisoned for tax evasion in 1996. After restarting his ministry upon release, a TV investigation found that claims of healing he made at a 2003 revival in Atlanta were false.

    11. Roy Clements, 1999

    Clements was a prominent figure within British evangelical christianity. In 1999, he revealed he was in a homosexual relationship with another man, resigned his pastorship, and separated from his wife. He had written a number of well-received books which were withdrawn from sale when the news broke.[10]

    12. John Paulk, 2000

    John Paulk (no relation to Earl Paulk) is a former leader of Focus on the Family‘s Love Won Out conference and former chairman of the board for Exodus International North America. His claimed shedding of homosexuality is also the subject of his autobiography Not Afraid to Change. In September 2000, Paulk was found and photographed in a Washington, D.C. gay bar, and accused by opponents of flirting with male patrons at the bar. Later questioned by gay rights activist Wayne Besen, Paulk denied being in the bar despite photographic proof to the contrary. Initially, FoF’s Dr. James Dobson sided with Paulk and supported his claims. Subsequently, Paulk, who himself had written about his habit of lying while he openly lived as a homosexual, confessed to being in the bar, but claimed he entered the establishment for reasons other than sexual pursuits. Paulk retained his Board seat for Exodus, however he did so while on probation. Paulk did not run again for chairman of the board of Exodus when his term expired.

    13. Paul Crouch, 2004

    Paul Crouch is the founder and president of the Trinity Broadcasting Network, or TBN, the world’s largest evangelical Christian television network, as well as the former host of TBN’s flagship variety show, Praise the Lord. In September 2004, the Los Angeles Times published a series of articles raising questions about the fundraising practices and financial transparency of TBN, as well as the allegations of a former ministry employee, Enoch Lonnie Ford, that he had a homosexual affair with Crouch during the 1990s. The Times spoke with several sources that claimed that other evangelists such as Benny Hinn, Jack Hayford, and Paul’s son Matthew were aware that an affair had taken place. TBN denied the allegations, claiming that Ford’s claims were part of an extortion scheme and that the Times was a “left-wing and anti-Christian newspaper” for publishing the articles. In 2005, Ford submitted to and passed a lie detector test on the ION Television program Lie Detector.

    14. Douglas Goodman, 2004

    Douglas Goodman, an evangelical preacher, and his wife Erica were pastors of Victory Christian Centre in London, England. The church was one of the largest in the United Kingdom. He came into notoriety when he was jailed for three and a half years for the sexual assault of four members of his congregation in 2004. VCC was closed by the Charity Commission, but his wife Erica started a new church, Victory to Victory, in Wembley. Douglas has upon his release resumed full pastoral ministry alongside his wife.[11][12][13][14][15]

    15. Kent Hovind, 2006

    Kent Hovind is an American Baptist minister and Young Earth creationist. He is most famous for creation science seminars, in which he argues for Young Earth creationism, using his self-formulated “Hovind Theory.” He has been criticized by both the mainstream scientific community and other creationists. In 2006, Hovind who also has a reputation as a tax protestor had been charged with falsely declaring bankruptcy, making threats against federal officials, filing false complaints, failing to get necessary building permits, and various tax-related charges. He was convicted of 58 federal tax offenses and related charges, for which he is currently serving a ten-year sentence.[16]

    16. Ted Haggard, 2006

    Ted Haggard was the pastor of the New Life Church in Colorado Springs, Colorado and was the president of the National Association of Evangelicals (NAE) from 2003 until November 2006. Haggard’s position allowed him occasional access to President George W. Bush. In 2006 it was alleged that Haggard had been regularly visiting a male prostitute who also provided him with methamphetamine. Haggard admitted his wrongdoing and resigned as pastor of New Life church and as president of the NAE. The high-profile case was significant also because it immediately preceded the 2006 mid-term elections and may have even affected national voting patterns[citation needed]. In January 2009, Haggard admitted to a second homosexual relationship with a male church member on CNN-TV and other national media, and when asked, would not directly answer a question about his other possible homosexual relationships.[17]

    17. Paul Barnes, 2006

    Paul Barnes is the founder and former senior minister of the evangelical church Grace Chapel in Douglas County, Colorado. He confessed his homosexual activity to the church board, and his resignation was accepted on December 7, 2006.[18] He started the church in his basement and watched it reach a membership of 2,100 in his 28 years of leadership. This scandal was notable because it was similar to Ted Haggard’s (above), it occurred in the same state (Colorado) and around the same time (late 2006).

    18.Lonnie Latham, 2006

    In 2006, Latham, the senior pastor of South Tulsa Baptist Church and a member of the powerful Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee, was arrested for “offering to engage in an act of lewdness” with a male undercover police officer.[19]

    19. Gilbert Deya, 2006

    Kenyan-born Deya moved to the United Kingdom in the 1990s and started a number of churches. He claims to have supernatural powers that allow him to make infertile women become pregnant and give birth. However, police investigations in the UK and Kenya concluded that Deya and his wife were stealing Kenyan babies. Deya was arrested in London during December 2006 and as of April 2010 he is currently fighting extradition to Kenya.[20]

    20.Richard Roberts, 2007

    In October 2007, televangelist Richard Roberts (son of the late televangelist Oral Roberts), was president of Oral Roberts University until his forced resignation on November 23, 2007. Roberts was named as a defendant in a lawsuit alleging improper use of university funds for political and personal purposes and improper use of university resources.[21]

    21. Earl Paulk, 2007

    Earl Paulk (no relation to John Paulk) was the founder and head pastor of Chapel Hill Harvester Church in Decatur, Georgia from 1960 until the 1990s. A number of women from the congregation came forward during the 1990s claiming that Paulk had sexual relations with them. Some of these claims have subsequently been proven correct. Moreover, Donnie Earl Paulk, the current senior pastor of the church and nephew of Earl Paulk, had a court-ordered DNA test in 2007 which showed that he was Earl’s son, not his nephew, which means that Earl and his sister-in-law had had a sexual relationship which led to Donnie’s birth.[22]

    22. Coy Privette, 2007

    Privette is a Baptist pastor, conservative activist, and politician in the U.S. state of North Carolina. Privette was president of the Christian Action League and a prominent figure in North Carolina moral battles. In 2007, Privette resigned as president of North Carolina’s Christian Action League and from the Board of Directors of the Baptist State Convention of North Carolina, following revelations on July 19 that he had been charged with six counts of aiding and abetting prostitution.[23]

    23. Thomas Wesley Weeks, III, 2007

    Weeks married fellow evangelist Juanita Bynum in 2002, but they separated in May 2007. In August 2007, Weeks physically assaulted Bynum in a hotel parking lot and was convicted of the crime in March 2008. The couple divorced in June 2008 and Weeks remarried in October 2009.[24]

    24. Michael Reid, 2008

    Bishop Michael Reid (born 1944) is a Christian evangelist in Essex, England and founder of Michael Reid Ministries who resigned from the role of pastor at Peniel Church in April 2008, after admitting to an eight-year extra-marital sexual relationship. The scandal was widely reported online[25][26][27] and in UK newspapers.[28][29] He has since re-developed an itinerant evangelistic ministry and has been speaking at a number of churches in the UK and overseas.

    25.Joe Barron, 2008

    Joe Barron, one of the 40 ministers at Prestonwood Baptist Church, one of the largest churches in the United States with 26,000 members, was arrested on May 15, 2008 for solicitation of a minor after driving from the Dallas area to Bryan, Texas, in order to allegedly engage in sexual relations with what he thought to be a 13 year-old girl he had met online. The “girl” turned out to be an undercover law enforcement official.[30][31][32]

    26.Todd Bentley, 2008

    Canadian Todd Bentley rose to prominence as the evangelist at the Lakeland Revival in Florida, which began in April 2008. Bentley claimed that tens of thousands of people were healed at the revival, but a June 2008 investigation by ABC Nightline could not find a single confirmed case. Bentley took a short break after the program was broadcast, but returned to leading the meetings. However, in August 2008, he stepped down permanently when it was revealed he was separating from his wife, Shonnah, and was in a relationship with Jessa Hasbrook, a member of his staff.[33]

    27. Tony Alamo, 2008

    On September 20, 2008, FBI agents raided Tony Alamo Christian Ministries headquarters as part of a child pornography investigation.[34][35] This investigation involved allegations of physical abuse, sexual abuse and allegations of polygamy and underage marriage. According to Terry Purvis, mayor of Fouke, Arkansas, his office has received complaints from former ministry members about allegations of child abuse, sexual abuse and polygamy since the ministry established itself in the area, and in turn, Purvis turned over information about the allegations to the FBI.[36] Investigators at the scene plan to conduct a search of ministry headquarters and the home of Alamo and interview children present on the compound. In late July 2009, Alamo (who had a previous conviction for tax evasion in the 1990s) was convicted on ten counts of transporting minors across state lines for sexual purposes, sexual assault and other crimes. On November 13, 2009, he was sentenced to the maximum punishment of 175 years in prison.[37][38]

    28.George Alan Rekers, 2010

    Penn Bullock and Brandon K. Thorp of the Miami New Times reported on May 4, 2010, that on April 13, 2010, George Alan Rekers, a far-right Christian leader was encountered and photographed at Miami International Airport returning from an extended overseas trip with a twenty-year-old “rent boy“, or gay male prostitute, known as “Lucien” (later identified as Jo-Vanni Roman). Given his opinion on homosexuals and homosexual behavior, the scandal surrounds Rekers’ decision to employ a homosexual escort as a traveling companion, and how that runs contrary to Rekers’ public stances on such issues.
    Rekers claimed that Lucien was there to help carry Rekers’ luggage as Rekers had allegedly had recent surgery, yet Rekers was seen carrying his own luggage when he and Lucien were spotted at the airport.[39] On his blog, Rekers denied having sex with the man.[40] In subsequent interviews, Roman said Rekers had paid him to provide nude massages daily, which included genital touching.

    29.Eddie L. Long, 2010

    On September 21st, 2010 a civil complaint was filed against Eddie L. Long by two young men that stated Mr. Long used his position as the church leader to entice the men into consensual sexual relationships in exchange for money, travel and goods.

    Senate probe:

    In 2007, Senator Chuck Grassley (R–IA) opened a probe into the finances of six televangelists who preach a “prosperity gospel“.[41] The probe is expected to investigate reports of lavish lifestyles by televangelists including: fleets of Rolls Royces, palatial mansions, private jets and other expensive items purportedly paid for by television viewers who donate due to the ministries’ encouragement of offerings.

    The six under investigation are:

    Kenneth Copeland and Gloria Copeland of Kenneth Copeland Ministries of Newark, Texas;
    Creflo Dollar and Taffi Dollar of World Changers Church International and Creflo Dollar Ministries of College Park, Ga;
    Benny Hinn of World Healing Center Church Inc. and Benny Hinn Ministries of Grapevine, Texas;
    Eddie L. Long of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church and Bishop Eddie Long Ministries of Lithonia, Ga;
    Joyce Meyer and David Meyer of Joyce Meyer Ministries of Fenton, Mo; and
    Randy White and ex-wife Paula White of the multiracial Without Walls International Church and Paula White Ministries of Tampa, Florida.


    • Phineas, kk lees in die koerant van n leser/kommentator wat vra “kan ons land se mense nie saam met oom Angus Buchan dringend bid vir reen nie?”
      Dit sluit nogal aan by Adriaan wat skryf oor die ‘belangrike” mes.

      As “God” weet wat hy gaan/wil doen wat help dit n mens bid? Laat my dink aan Goerge Carlin.


  5. Or god is being an asshole like usual. No on a serious note this is the fucked up mankind and what he has done to the world. Global warming! If mankind doesn’t want to respect mother nature than mother nature will play a little game with us.

    Sekere sort boer wat diere doodskiet en lekker kry daaruit. Dan sit daai selfde soort fokken doos en bid vir reen. Hierdie probleem is simptomaties van die mens en sy arrogansie. Toe mens, maak nou reen met jou tegnologie! Jy is mos so slim. Jy is mos belangrikker as ander lewende wesens. Kyk wat jou arrogansie nou vir jou doen.

    Ek haat mense se guts. Veral ‘n sekere soort ” groot wildjagter “. Kom wys nou vir ons hoe julle gebedjies gaan doen om hierdie probleem op te los. Toe “belangrike” mens.


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