Dr Jan Grey, Poepol van die Jaar in 2011, is deur sy eie vlok gefire. Lyk my hy het soos in die ou dae onder die vrouens ingeklim en seker gemaak hulle is onderdanig aan hom en god en die mans. Hy het ook volgens sy gemeente, te min vir god gewerk, en te veel vir sy eie belange. Soos ek voorspel het, het hy nie lank gehou nie. Hy het baie hier geskryf, ek hoop hy kom terug na die blog toe om homself te verduidelik.

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Afrikaanse kerk in Oz pos leraar

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Dr. Jan Grey en sy vrou, Elise.

Julian Jansen

Dr. Jan Grey het vier jaar gelede na Australië geëmigreer met groot planne om ’n kerk vir “honderdduisende Afrikaanssprekendes” te stig.

Hy het ook Suid-Afrikaners wat “Malema en sy uitsprake wou ontvlug” aangemoedig om Australië toe te emigreer.

Verlede maand is dié herder van die Afrikaanse Kerk Gold Coast (ACGC) deur sy kerkraad in die pad gesteek.

Hy is in 2008 beroep na die ACGC, wat met sowat 100 Afrikaanse huisgesinne volgens Australiese standaarde ’n “groot” gemeente is.

Die oud-Pretorianer bestempel Au­straliërs se lewensbeskouing as “sekulêr-humanisties tot ­ateïsties” en sê hulle leef “doodgewoon losbandig” en is uitge­lewer aan ’n “ongebreidelde hedonistiese lewenstyl”.

Sy ore was egter glo doof vir sy lidmate se klagtes oor sy “afskeepwerk” – hy het glo net Sondae gepreek en geen verdere herderlike werk gedoen nie.

Grey se siening van die bediening, die bestuur van geld en die verwagte nederigheid as ’n herder het drasties verskil van die verwagtinge van die gemeente, sê lidmate wat verkies om anoniem te praat.

Sy “styl” en “houding” het glo verdeeldheid gesaai en hy het glo ook meer tyd by sy vrou se geskenk-en-skryfbehoeftewinkel deurgebring as met kerksake.

Daarby het hy glo ’n “dominee-mevrou”-kultuur, wat lid­mate geglo het hulle in Suid-Afrika agtergelaat het, aan hulle opgedwing.

’n Lidmaat sê van die stigterslede van die gemeente het later padgegee.

“Sowat 47 dominees het al na die ooskus gekom en Grey het almal se patroon gevolg: dominee speel, bedank dan (of ons dwing hom om te gaan) en gaan preek daarna vir die Aussies in swak Engels of word hulp-predikers in ’n Aussie-gemeente.

“Daarna word hulle finansiële konsultante, polisverkopers of polisiemanne.

“Grey is gevra om te bedank en doen nou ’n klerklike werkie by ’n Christelike organisasie.”

Grey het aan Rapport gesê: “Ek laat staan wat agter my is en strek my uit na wat voor my lê. Ek sal my eerder op die bediening van die 60% non-churched Australians toespits.

“Ek en my vrou (Elise) het by my ou Suid-Afrikaanse bediening, die Campus Crusade for Christ, aangesluit.

“Ek glo baie Afrikaanssprekendes sal mettertyd met ons saamwerk.”

Volgens ds. Renier van der Klashorst, ’n Afrikaanse predikant by die Pioneer Community Church in Queensland, “sit die kerk met ’n krisis”.

“Sowat 40% van die predikante wat hierheen immigreer, raak soms uitgebrand of beland in ’n ander beroep. Sommige predikante is dalk ontnugter, doen te veel, werk sewe dae, of verval in kerkpolitiek.

“Ek moet egter byvoeg: Om die Aussies geestelik te bearbei, is ’n groot uitdaging.

“Hulle is reëlvaste mense, maar nie lief vir kerk toe gaan nie. Sowat 6% is wel kerkgangers. Baie gewese Suid-Afrikaners hier gaan ook nie kerk toe nie,” sê Van der Klashorst.

Hier is Jan Grey, die Poepol van die Week en jaar in 2011:

https://mcbrolloks.wordpress.com/2011/06/29/in-die-beeld-poepol-van-die-week-dr-jan-grey-moeg-vir-malema-kom-na-australie-se-leraar/

Hy het toe nie so lank gehou onder sy gemeente nie, en ons het dit goed voorspel.

Anyone surprised they picked a real asshole as the new pope?

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The sins of the Argentinian church

The Catholic church was complicit in dreadful crimes in Argentina. Now it has a chance to repent

Benedict XVI gave us words of great comfort and encouragement in the message he delivered on Christmas Eve.

“God anticipates us again and again in unexpected ways,” the pope said. “He does not cease to search for us, to raise us up as often as we might need. He does not abandon the lost sheep in the wilderness into which it had strayed. God does not allow himself to be confounded by our sin. Again and again he begins afresh with us”.

If these words comforted and encouraged me they will surely have done the same for leaders of the church in Argentina, among many others. To the judicious and fair-minded outsider it has been clear for years that the upper reaches of the Argentinian church contained many “lost sheep in the wilderness”, men who had communed and supported the unspeakably brutal western-supported military dictatorship that seized power in that country in 1976 and battened on it for years. Not only did the generals slaughter thousands unjustly, often dropping them out of aeroplanes over the River Plate and selling off their orphan children to the highest bidder, they also murdered at least two bishops and many priests. Yet even the execution of other men of the cloth did nothing to shake the support of senior clerics, including representatives of the Holy See, for the criminality of their leader General Jorge Rafael Videla and his minions.

As it happens, in the week before Christmas in the city of Córdoba Videla and some of his military and police cohorts were convicted by their country’s courts of the murder of 31 people between April and October 1976, a small fraction of the killings they were responsible for. The convictions brought life sentences for some of the military. These were not to be served, as has often been the case in Argentina and neighbouring Chile, in comfy armed forces retirement homes but in common prisons. Unsurprisingly there was dancing in the city’s streets when the judge announced the sentences.

What one did not hear from any senior member of the Argentinian hierarchy was any expression of regret for the church’s collaboration and in these crimes. The extent of the church’s complicity in the dark deeds was excellently set out by Horacio Verbitsky, one of Argentina’s most notable journalists, in his book El Silencio (Silence). He recounts how the Argentinian navy hid from a visiting delegation of the Inter-American Human Rights Commission the dictatorship’s political prisoners on an island linked to senior clerics.

One would have thought that the Argentinian bishops would have seized the opportunity to call for pardon for themselves and put on sackcloth and ashes as the sentences were announced in Córdoba but that has not so far happened.

But happily Their Eminences have just been given another chance to express contrition. Next month the convicted murderer Videla will be arraigned for his part in the killing of Enrique Angelelli, bishop of the Andean diocese of La Rioja and a supporter of the cause of poorer Argentinians. He was run off the highway by a hit squad of the Videla régime and killed on 4th August 1976 shortly after Videla’s putsch.

• This article was amended on 14 March 2013. The original article, published in 2011, wrongly suggested that Argentinian journalist Horacio Verbitsky claimed that Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio connived with the Argentinian navy to hide political prisoners on an island called El Silencio during an inspection by human rights monitors. Although Verbitsky makes other allegations about Bergoglio’s complicity in human right abuses, he does not make this claim. The original article also wrongly described El Silencio as Bergoglio’s “holiday home”. This has been corrected.

Would an innocent man with nothing to fear have to hide for the rest of his life? The Pope will not dare to leave the Vatican. He should be charged with human rights violations of the worst kind for accommodating child rapists and protecting child rapists. The true face of Evil!!!

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Pope Immunity: Vatican Will Protect Benedict From Sexual Abuse Prosecution

 

(Reuters) – Pope Benedict’s decision to live in the Vatican after he resigns will provide him with security and privacy. It will also offer legal protection from any attempt to prosecute him in connection with sexual abuse cases around the world, Church sources and legal experts say.

“His continued presence in the Vatican is necessary, otherwise he might be defenseless. He wouldn’t have his immunity, his prerogatives, his security, if he is anywhere else,” said one Vatican official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

“It is absolutely necessary” that he stays in the Vatican, said the source, adding that Benedict should have a “dignified existence” in his remaining years.

Vatican sources said officials had three main considerations in deciding that Benedict should live in a convent in the Vatican after he resigns on February 28.

Vatican police, who already know the pope and his habits, will be able to guarantee his privacy and security and not have to entrust it to a foreign police force, which would be necessary if he moved to another country.

“I see a big problem if he would go anywhere else. I’m thinking in terms of his personal security, his safety. We don’t have a secret service that can devote huge resources (like they do) to ex-presidents,” the official said.

Another consideration was that if the pope did move permanently to another country, living in seclusion in a monastery in his native Germany, for example, the location might become a place of pilgrimage.

POTENTIAL EXPOSURE

This could be complicated for the Church, particularly in the unlikely event that the next pope makes decisions that may displease conservatives, who could then go to Benedict’s place of residence to pay tribute to him.

“That would be very problematic,” another Vatican official said.

The final key consideration is the pope’s potential exposure to legal claims over the Catholic Church’s sexual abuse scandals.

In 2010, for example, Benedict was named as a defendant in a law suit alleging that he failed to take action as a cardinal in 1995 when he was allegedly told about a priest who had abused boys at a U.S. school for the deaf decades earlier. The lawyers withdrew the case last year and the Vatican said it was a major victory that proved the pope could not be held liable for the actions of abusive priests.

Benedict is currently not named specifically in any other case. The Vatican does not expect any more but is not ruling out the possibility.

“(If he lived anywhere else) then we might have those crazies who are filing lawsuits, or some magistrate might arrest him like other (former) heads of state have been for alleged acts while he was head of state,” one source said.

Another official said: “While this was not the main consideration, it certainly is a corollary, a natural result.”

After he resigns, Benedict will no longer be the sovereign monarch of the State of Vatican City, which is surrounded by Rome, but will retain Vatican citizenship and residency.

LATERAN PACTS

That would continue to provide him immunity under the provisions of the Lateran Pacts while he is in the Vatican and even if he makes jaunts into Italy as a Vatican citizen.

The 1929 Lateran Pacts between Italy and the Holy See, which established Vatican City as a sovereign state, said Vatican City would be “invariably and in every event considered as neutral and inviolable territory”.

There have been repeated calls for Benedict’s arrest over sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

When Benedict went to Britain in 2010, British author and atheist campaigner Richard Dawkins asked authorities to arrest the pope to face questions over the Church’s child abuse scandal.

Dawkins and the late British-American journalist Christopher Hitchens commissioned lawyers to explore ways of taking legal action against the pope. Their efforts came to nothing because the pope was a head of state and so enjoyed diplomatic immunity.

In 2011, victims of sexual abuse by the clergy asked the International Criminal Court to investigate the pope and three Vatican officials over sexual abuse.

The New York-based rights group Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and another group, Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP), filed a complaint with the ICC alleging that Vatican officials committed crimes against humanity because they tolerated and enabled sex crimes.

The ICC has not taken up the case but has never said why. It generally does not comment on why it does not take up cases.

NOT LIKE A CEO

The Vatican has consistently said that a pope cannot be held accountable for cases of abuse committed by others because priests are employees of individual dioceses around the world and not direct employees of the Vatican. It says the head of the church cannot be compared to the CEO of a company.

Victims groups have said Benedict, particularly in his previous job at the head of the Vatican’s doctrinal department, turned a blind eye to the overall policies of local Churches, which moved abusers from parish to parish instead of defrocking them and handing them over to authorities.

The Vatican has denied this. The pope has apologized for abuse in the Church, has met with abuse victims on many of his trips, and ordered a major investigation into abuse in Ireland.

But groups representing some of the victims say the Pope will leave office with a stain on his legacy because he was in positions of power in the Vatican for more than three decades, first as a cardinal and then as pope, and should have done more.

The scandals began years before the then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected pope in 2005 but the issue has overshadowed his papacy from the beginning, as more and more cases came to light in dioceses across the world.

As recently as last month, the former archbishop of Los Angeles, Cardinal Roger Mahony, was stripped by his successor of all public and administrative duties after a thousands of pages of files detailing abuse in the 1980s were made public.

Mahony, who was archbishop of Los Angeles from 1985 until 2011, has apologized for “mistakes” he made as archbishop, saying he had not been equipped to deal with the problem of sexual misconduct involving children. The pope was not named in that case.

In 2007, the Los Angeles archdiocese, which serves 4 million Catholics, reached a $660 million civil settlement with more than 500 victims of child molestation, the biggest agreement of its kind in the United States.

Vatican spokesman Father Federico Lombardi said the pope “gave the fight against sexual abuse a new impulse, ensuring that new rules were put in place to prevent future abuse and to listen to victims. That was a great merit of his papacy and for that we will be grateful”.

(Reporting by Philip Pullella; Additional reporting by Robin Pomeroy; Edited by Simon Robinson and Giles Elgood)

The Roman Catholic Church lying again to save their own arses from the law.

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An ultrasound.
Photograph by ThinkStock.

In a country as awash in bad faith and empty political posturing as ours, it’s always fun to expose blatant hypocrisy. That’s why the story of the St. Thomas More Hospital lawsuit is ripping through the Internet. It’s a sad one, really: Lori Stodghill, seven months pregnant, was admitted to the hospital with a blocked artery that killed her and the two fetuses inside her. The plaintiff, her husband, Jeremy Stodghill, is claiming that because her doctor didn’t answer his pages, the twins died unnecessarily and could have been rescued through an emergency C-section, even if Lori’s life couldn’t be saved. The hospital’s defense, so far successful, is to claim that because the twins were fetuses and not people, this can’t legally be viewed as a wrongful-death situation.

Of course, the problem is that the hospital is run by Catholic Health Initiatives—Catholic, as in that religion whose leadership routinely claims that not only are fetuses people, but so are embryos, zygotes, and fertilized eggs. That claim is used to turn women into sacrificial lambs for the faith, denying them not just elective abortions but telling them that it’s not OK to terminate pregnancies where there’s no chance of producing a live baby. Women who go to Catholic hospitals in these situations have been deniedprocedures to save their fertility or even their lives. But, as this lawsuit shows, the passionate belief that anything post-fertilization is a “person” evaporates the second it stops being useful as a way to oppress women (and the second it starts possibly costing the Catholic hospital money).

So, cries of hypocrisy are justified and outrage understandable. Still, anyone who really thought that proponents of the fetus-as-person line ever really cared about “life” was being incredibly naive. The church romanticizes needless suffering through pregnancy for women, offering sainthood to women who die rather than take a doctor’s advice to stop getting pregnant. And if the church actually thought an embryo was the same thing as a person, it would demand free birth control for all in the interest of preventing murder. Instead it fights against contraception access.

Interestingly, this case reflects the more nuanced understanding that most people, especially pro-choice people, have regarding fetal development. While hardline religious anti-choicers use the “can it be used to oppress women?” measurement to determine if it’s a person or not in there, ordinary people tend to agree with the justices in Roe v. Wade that it starts off as not-a-person and gradually becomes one over months, gaining more moral consideration in the later months of pregnancy. This is why 88 percent of abortions are in the first 12 weeks, a percentage that would be even higher if women weren’t delayed by anti-choice laws and harassment from getting timelier abortions. Only 1.5 percent of abortions occur after 20 weeks, even though elective abortion is legal up to 24 weeks in much of the country.

Stodghill’s pregnancy was seven months along, and despite anti-choice propaganda to the contrary, women at that stage of pregnancy don’t suddenly wake up one day and decide to terminate. Most women, even super pro-choice women, feel much differently about a seven-month pregnancy than an eight-week pregnancy, even if the Catholic Church doesn’t seem to see any difference at all.

The Poepol Of The Week Award goes to Professor Nico Koopman, theologian from the University of Stellenbosch.

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nico_koopmanUndoubtedly, the Poepol of the Weeks Award goes to Professor Nico Koopman, theologian from the University of Stellenbosch, for his comments on physician assisted suicide, from the article published in News24.

“Suffering is simply part and parcel of life on earth,” says Professor Nico Koopman, theologian from the University of Stellenbosch. “But God is with us in our suffering and we are not alone. The suffering person also has a right to life and through suffering we often grow spiritually. God gives knowledge and insight to medical personnel to relieve people’s suffering.”

Now this proves once again how religion rots the brain slowly over time. You have to be bat-shit crazy to believe this dribble. I have no doubt that  Professor Nico Koopman is firmly entrenched in his bronze age beliefs, and will do anything in his power to prevent laws that allow people to get help with ending their suffering with physician assisted suicide.

This is one of many basic human rights that organized religion opposes fiercely.

Professor Nico Koopman truly deserves the coveted Poepol of the Week Award. How the University of Stellenbosch put this moron in charge of theology their gods will only know. But then again, that whole department is built and based on whoo and bullshit, with no credibility in the real world where reason and logic applies.

Six polio workers shot dead in Pakistan. Another example of how religion rots the mind. If you blatantly ignore the well been of children to follow your primitive religion, that is a sure sign that you are not right in the head anymore.

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Six polio workers shot dead in Pakistan

2012-12-18 14:45

APKarachi – Gunmen in Pakistan have killed six health workers at the start of a nationwide polio vaccination drive, officials said on Tuesday, highlighting resistance to a campaign opposed by the Taliban.

Four women were killed in less than an hour in seemingly co-ordinated attacks in Karachi on Tuesday, a day after a man working on a local government-World Health Organisation (WHO) project was also shot dead in the city, police said.

A sixth worker, also a woman, was killed on Tuesday in the northwestern city of Peshawar, which lies close to the tribal areas, a haven for the Taliban and other militants who ordered a ban on polio vaccinations in June.

Pakistan is one of only three countries where polio remains endemic, along with Afghanistan and Nigeria, but efforts to tackle the highly infectious crippling disease have been hampered over the years by suspicion.

The Taliban banned immunisations in the tribal region of Waziristan, condemning the campaign as a cover for espionage after the jailing of a doctor who helped the CIA find Osama bin Laden using a hepatitis vaccination programme.

Sagheer Ahmed, the health minister for Sindh province, of which Karachi is capital, said he had ordered a halt to the anti-polio drive in the city in the wake of Tuesday’s shootings.

Senior police officer Shahid Hayat blamed “militants who issued a fatwa against polio vaccination in the past” for the Karachi killings.

He said one polio vaccination team was attacked in the eastern Karachi neighbourhood of Gulshan-e-Buner.

“They were fired upon by unidentified gunmen who rode away on motorcycles. Two women members suffered multiple gunshots and died on the spot,” he said.

Two women and a man were wounded in two separate incidents in the city’s west, Hayat said, adding that all of the victims were part of WHO-supervised polio vaccination teams.

240 000 children at risk

In a Peshawar suburb, two attackers on a motorbike fired on two sisters working on vaccination, killing one, senior police official Javed Khan told AFP.

In Waziristan, a hub for Islamist militants, the Taliban ban – to protest against US drone strikes and because they allege that the polio campaign is a cover for espionage – risks the health of 240 000 children, officials say.

Launching the polio drive on Monday, Pakistani authorities threatened to punish tribesmen who refuse to allow their children to be inoculated.

Siraj Ahmad Khan, the top official in North Waziristan tribal area, said the punishments would include a ban on monthly stipends to tribal elders, development work, civil service recruitment and issuing ID cards and passports.

Tuesday’s killings in Karachi took place in parts of the city dominated by Pashtuns, Hayat said. Pashtuns are the dominant ethnic group in northwest Pakistan and have a sizeable migrant population in Karachi.

WHO, a partner in government efforts to eradicate the disease, suspended vaccination activities in part of Pakistan’s largest city in July after a spate of shootings.

A UN doctor from Ghana working on polio eradication and his driver were shot in Karachi and three days later a local community worker who was part of the same campaign was shot dead in the same area.

 

Christmas – by McBrolloks

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Christmas

by McBrolloks

It is the season
When we piss away reason
When some celebrate the birth
Of their very own hero

Their Jesus was born, then he had to be murdered
So that they won’t have to burn, for all of  their sin

If you believe in this tale, you will surely enjoy
All the other fables, on the Jesus resume

If you are too young to understand, don’t worry my dear
People will get you going, with all of their cheer
If this doesn’t work, there is nothing to fear
A guy named Santa, will bring you lots of nice gear
Bags full of presents, that will give you much joy
And later they’ll tell you, these presents weren’t free
That it’s all part of remembering why Jesus had died
Because Adam and Eve ate some fruit, and told god a lie
A lie that made him so mad that he started to cry
He made a new place, of fire and hell, where he would put everyone, who would break his heart ever again
He also made a list, of 10 mortal sins, things you have to remember, you can never ever do again
But if you forget, or you just couldn’t stop, don’t worry, because all is not lost
That is why god, sent down his only son, to be tortured and killed by a very angry mob
So that his blood could cleanse you and you can still go to heaven, and there we will all be together forever and ever
If this sound too cruel, and it makes you afraid, don’t worry my child, it’s all very normal, god and Jesus loves you and would never forsake you
Just don’t do what you want, because they can always see you, and they never forget, if you broke any rules and told any lies, be sure they will eventually get you
Remember all that blood didn’t flow just for you, and if you neglect to be sorry, it will flow all over you, in the form of fire and pain, in that place they call hell, for ever and ever and too long to measure

It’s a wonderful time
When we celebrate the season
The gifts and the cheer, it’s all for a good reason
All thanks to a snake, a man and his wife
A god that got pissed and a paradise that they lost
But god’s heart got soft
So he raped a young girl
And sent us their son
To save us from hell
Who he left to be murdered
In a wonderful way
So everyone
Can all be together
In a new paradise
Forever and ever

If this all seems too much
For a young and healthy mind
Don’t worry my child
It will never make sense
Enjoy all your gifts
Enjoy all the fun
But someday you will pay, the price for it all
Someday you will know, what we all know now
That hell is a place, where you don’t want to go
And go there you won’t, because everyone knows
When they nailed Jesus to that cross
He died for your sins
So heaven awaits
As soon as you die
But starting right now
Your brain will start to get fried

Years later, without a doubt
You will do to your kids
What we, the people who love you, are doing to you now
Start of with Santa, and a bag full of gifts
Then move on a bit later
To Jesus and love
To the snake and the garden, and to god and his lust, for a girl in the desert
Whom he allegedly never spread like an eagle, from which Jesus was born
To save us from our sins
His dad sent him to get killed, by a murderous mob
To save us for ever
So when we’re all dead, we’ll all be together

People who doubt, can still get on board
As long as they stop
To be a pain in the arse
And get with the program
And never more doubt
And before they will know it
Their brains will start to rot

Once they are zombies
The fun really starts
You will know it for sure
When they open their mouths
And they spread all their lies
And they don’t want to hear
That their good news is crap
And their god is a cunt
A sick fucking bastard
That you don’t want around
If you don’t believe me, go and read his old book
It is full of murder and many other crimes, things that will scare you, and never make sense, not the deeds of a loving god, rather a monster you would never want as a friend
We don’t talk about it, and we don’t like to hear, anything about it, it will ruin the fun, so keep your mouth shut, and never fear, as long as we all lie, nobody can ruin our cheer

So if you love reason and you still have a brain
warn your children, and warn them all now
That this sickness can spread, and it is everywhere
But as long as you can think, be honest and use reason
There is nothing to fear, and you are safe from them all
Because you have to be bat-shit crazy, and totally mad
To believe all that crap, and all of those lies
Just remember that they, a long time ago
Were once like we are, and nothing was wrong
But they got the sickness, the rotting of the brain
And that’s why they believe in all of this shit, about a man who had died
So that they can all live forever, together in a place in the sky
At the feet of their ghosts, with people singing and angels playing the harp

If you have a brain, and it still works pretty fine
I am sure then you know, about this whole fucking lie
Please spare your children, don’t let them fall in this trap
There’s nothing like gifts, to impress a young mind
Just make sure they don’t think it came from a god
That lives up in the sky, who loves them as long as they never lie

So enjoy all the cheer, for the holidays are fun
But remember that too much
Of this fun can do harm
And leave some with a hangover
They will suffer for life
A brain that rots as the years all go by
Till later they can’t tell, the truth from the lies

Happy Xmis Everbody!!!!