Angus Buchan terug met ‘n heilige wrewil en hierdie week se Poepol van die Week.

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Buchan, duisende bid op Naval Hill vir land, reën

Op hul knieë en met hande in die lug het duisende mense van heinde en ver Saterdag saam met die aartappelboer en prediker Angus Buchan in Bloemfontein vir ’n stortvloed reën vanaf Kaapstad tot Musina gebid.

Buchan en talle mense uit verskillende gemeenskappe en denominasies het Saterdagoggend op Naval Hill byeengekom om nie net vir reën te bid nie, maar ook vir die situasie in die land.

Terwyl jonk en oud die Here op hul knieë en met hande in die lug om ’n wonderwerk gevra het, het ’n wind opgesteek. Buchan het die skare gevra of hulle die wind voel, waarop sy gehoor in ’n koor “ja” geantwoord het. “Kan julle die wind voel? Dit is dié wind wat die reën gaan bring.”

Hierna het die skare agter Buchan aan gebid: “Here, ons verdien dit nie, maar ons vra dat U ’n wonderwerk in die nasie sal doen.

“Ons vra spesifiek dat U vir ons fisiese reën van Kaapstad tot Musina sal stuur; dat die hele land deurweek sal word van die reën – ’n stortvloed van reën, konstante reën wat nie sal ophou totdat die hele land gevul en herstel is nie.”

Buchan het eers vir die land en sy mense gebid.

Hy sê die unieke en buitengewone byeenkoms is gehou omdat die land hom in ’n krisis bevind.

“Ek is moeg daarvan om daagliks van moord, vernietiging, haat en tragedies te hoor. Ons het manne en vroue nodig wat ’n verskil kan maak.

“Daarom is ons vandag hier om jammer te sê.

“Jammer dat ons toegelaat het dat sonde ons huise, huwelike en verhoudings en families binnegedring het.”

Al reën dit, is dit nie goed genoeg as die land in chaos gedompel is nie, het Buchan bygevoeg. “Daarom vra ons ons Hemelse Vader om in die land in te gryp en om ’n wonderwerk te verrig.”

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97 thoughts on “Angus Buchan terug met ‘n heilige wrewil en hierdie week se Poepol van die Week.

  1. “McBrolloks”, Is jy/julle ’n klomp ongelowiges, of net ’n indiwidu, wat wil ingryp om die massas te bekeer tot onkunde?

    Wat is, PRESIES, 1. jou/julle probleem? 2. jou/julle saak?

    Voel jy/julle maar net rasend ALLEEN en skop stof op; of wat? Jan Grey.

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    • Andries Terblanche is self nie te ver van jou af nie Ds Jan. KPMG is die maatskappy wat met hom opgeskeep sit. “nough said”,.

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    • Oompie Jan, n predikant met n doktorsgraad moet darem sekerlik weet hoe om die woord ” individu” te spel, of hoe? Hoekom help jou gotte jou nie hiermee nie?

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    • Jan, ek is gatvol vir christene wat hulle persoonlikke stories en voorkeure met my altyd uit die bloute uit bespreek. Ek is net eenvoudig kompleet en al gatvol vir here storetjies. Sekere christene ( Klein groupie) bespreek nie hulle geloof met ander nie. Dis heeltemal ‘n persoonlikke ding.

      Die res is permanent besig om hulle snert in ander se kele af te druk. Eintlik behoort dit volgens christene as laster beskou te word om heeltyd te se – ” O die Here het ons so geseen”, ” Die Here is so goed vir ons”. Dis eintlik laster. Dis wat ‘n sekere groep chrsitene in elk geval behoort te se.

      Ons atties sit nie op facebook en bespreek die evolusie van die hominid brein met vreemdelinge nie. Hoekom wil hulle altyd oor die ” Koningkryk van God” met ons kom praat? Ek stap nie van huis tot huis, lui aan die klokkie en se ek wil met die mense praat oor die evolusie van die hominid brein nie. Hoekom kom lui hulle aan my klokkie en se hulle wil oor die koningkryk van god praat?

      Hulle is ‘n klomp pyn in die gatte. Daar is nie ‘n ding soos ‘n God nie. In elk geval daar is nie ‘n ding wat persoonlikke verhoudings met mense het nie. Niks gaan jou hoor en reageer op jou gebede nie. Dis alles in mense se koppe.

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  2. Ons verdien dit nie ????? Hahaaa. Ai, die arme poepolle sotte. Die ou fokken here met al sy fokken gestrawwery en verwagting en aandring dat ons hom moet smeek en dien en op ons kniee gaan en ons self deur die modder sleep, alles net sodat hy daar bo kan sit en wat? Draad trek en lekker kry?

    Geen wonder al die fokken godiote wil net heeldag kinder fisies aanrand. Hulle kry dit vanaf die fokken got van hulle wat so bedonderd is. Net gister sien ek weer ‘n hoof opskrif dat “Kerke wil weer pakslae terug he”. Die simpele fokken
    poese lees net daai kakboek van hulle. Probeer net om een van hulle te kry om net bv. Summerhill te lees. Nee fok !

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    • Een van Summerhill se top student skryf nou in 2014 die volgende.

      “Mikey Cuddihy, artist and lecturer at the University of Brighton, whose 2014 Summerhill memoir A Conversation About Happiness tells how

      “it was common for students to get married in mock weddings, and they were allowed to sleep together…More worryingly, sexual relations between students and teachers were also common…Neill’s 35-year-old stepson Myles, who taught pottery…went out with some of the more senior pupils (because) he has a special dispensation”[34]

      This novel’s contents are highly personal and disputed by other people within the school at the time.

      Dan vloek julle Rooms-katolieke priesters?

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  3. Daardie ou Anus Buchan is nogal ‘n uitgeslape ou kalant. Ons het al klaar gehoor dat daar lekker reens gaan kom hierso einde Februarie/Begin Maart.
    Sy timing is nogal goed. Watch nou net as die reens kom ! Hallelujah broers en susters ! Ek word behoorlik siek van die klomp. Dis lagwekkend om te sien hoe hulle tekere gaan met hul hande in die lug en op hul kniee. Dis om van naar te word.

    Gottediens het wreedheid van die mensdom aangemoedig en versprei deur daai kakboeke van hulle wat kinderaanranding voorskryf. Die fokken klomp godiote kan hulself glad nie ‘n toestand indink of verbeel waar kinders en alle mense nooit gebliksem word en op geskree word nie en waar kinders vry is om totaal hulself te wees en net te groei nie. En natuurlik glad nie ge-indoktrineer word met enige kak nie.

    Die klomp wat ou Buchan aanhang is juis hulle wie apartheid veroorsaak het en terug verlang daarna. Die fokken NG kerk het nie die politieke toestand van ons land verander nie.

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    • A.g. die kakboek: not to mention where the fathers fuck the daughters or put them out in the street to be raped by thugs to avoid being beaten or killed themselves. Sort of like the Palestinians who are the same tribe as the Jews. And we still worship this Jewish kak thousands of years later.

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    • According to Hermann Giliomee, a proffie of political studies at Wits, there is a remnant of about a thousand hard core Afrikaner right wingers who want apartheid back. They are each and every last one of them mentally disturbed and armed – they were brought up on the kakboek so they keep the sanna next to the bybel – but are more likely to use the guns on their own families.

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    • Fanie I have heard people defending Angus Buchan, they say he “converts” men from being wife beaters and drunks to nice, regular husbands – but “nice” only as long as their wives remain submissive. Eventually the wife will not make the scrambled eggs exactly the way the husband likes it and the fists will fly again. Fundamentalism merely substitutes one form of infantile narcissism with another. Women should stay away entirely from men who attend Angus Buchan conventions, or even think he’s any good. How many women haven’t been beaten to a bloody pulp by religious maniacs? Billions.

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      • Schmoly,
        You are right. Fucked up children become fucked up adults. Humans develop a character structure that becomes set like concrete by the time we are adults, unless the baby child or teenager has been helped by having been allowed to express or even act-out their pent-up feelings of hurt and anger. Or if the adult is able to have a therapy that deals exclusively with his damaged and painful feelings, going all the way back as far as possible.

        A fucked up husband will try to cope with fucked up feelings by dumping on those around him, who are obviously the weakest. He may be scared shitless of other people, but he will crush his wife and children, no matter how “religious” he is. Listening to a preach and then resolving to “change his ways” henceforth will only result in, as you say, him becoming a repeat offender. That is his character structure and no amount of resolve, prayers, medicine, “positive thinking” or lecturing will change that.

        As we know, women have historically suffered horribly under men and patriarchal societies, where men could do just as they like and the women had to suffer and shut up. That stupid fucking kakboek tells men that they are “the king in the household” . there should be some kind of government sponsored way for women to leave men like that and then be helped to make ends meet and carry on with their lives. Ons is ver te agterlik in hierdie land dat so iets ooit sal gebeur.

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  4. Kwassie,
    Jy is ‘n ja-broer jong ! Het jy al die movie gekyk? Jy het belowe! Doen jouself ‘n guns en kry bietjie van ‘n ander insig op dinge. Daar is ‘n ander mooi en lieflike aangename wereld buiten die van die kakboeke. Jy sal hopelik aangenaam verras wees. Toe nou man !

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    • Hy sal nie Fanie. Hierdie ouens verwag v ons om hul bybel te lees (wat ek met graagte doen), maar is te bang om enigiets te lees wat teenstrydig is met hul dogma. Hoekom? – die antwoord is dat hul skytbang is dat hul dogma n klomp kak is. Hulle is soos volstruise kop inniesand en het reeds besluit hul dogma is die enigste waarheid…..met zero bewyse. Dwaasheid tot die mag 10.

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    • Nee ek het hom gekyk Fanie. Was heel nice. Maddy en Ryan het toe goeie pelle geword. Was nice van sy pa om uiteindelik sommer vyf jaar vir hom vooruit te betaal. Die hofsaak sprokie was nogal oulik. Die fliek of mini series het my nogal geroer omdat ek maar romanties is. Mens wonder net hoe hulle sonder grootmense daar sou vaar? Iets soos wat “the lord of the flies” vir ons wou vertel.

      Metafories sou die grootmense wat tog net een stem gehad het eintlik die gewete van die groep wees wat hulle in ‘n rigting wou bly stuur. Ryan het aanvanklik sy vryheid gebruik om Maddy se geld te steel en die ander twee tieners het die rook uit mekaar gevry….ek wonder of die pil deel van die maandelikse vitanines was. Ek dink Narnia was ‘n baie beter storie.

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      • Kwassie,
        As jy die boek Summerhill lees, dan sal jy sien dat dit waar is dat seksualiteit nie onderdruk word daar nie. Maar kinders wat vry groot word het ‘n inherente vermoe om verantwoordelik op te tree. Seksualiteit is iets wat elke ouer en onderwyser moet tegemoet kom op een of ander manier sonder om die kinders total neuroties te maak. Jy kan dit nie onderdruk nie. Dit is juis die godiote wat kinders aldag verkrag. Read what every other ex-Summerhill has to say. There have been thousands of kids through Summerhill, and the overwhelming majority are extremely happy about it.

        By ‘n laerskool waar ek was, het onnies rond en bont ingeklim en jong meisies so ge-intimideer en vreesbevange gemaak dat die arme dogtertjies nie gewwet het hoe om “nee” te se nie. Probeer so iets met ‘n kind van Summerhill? Jy sal donners sleg afkom, dit waarborg ek jou. Seksuele vryheid is iets wat al die godiote nog moet van leer.

        By Summerhill word kinders nie ge-molesteer of verkrag deur volwassenes nie.
        Hulle word van kleins af deeglik vertel en geleer oor alles wat seks betref en soos hulle ouer word, aanvaar hulle die verantwoordelikheid wat op hulle berus.

        Daar was nog nooit ‘n onverwagte pregnancy met enige van die dogters sedert 1921 nie. Nouja, alles is nie altyd perfek met enige situasie nie, maar die kinders word verantwoordelik groot sonder dat daar gepreek of gebliksem of
        ge-indoktrineer word.

        Die storie van Ryan en Maddy ,probeer vir jou vertel hoe opgefok kinders is teen die tyd wat hulle daar aankom. It is only after several months that the atmosphere of total freedom rubs off on previously fucked up kids.

        Why should I stop swearing, Kwassie? To please your mother? Or Jan Grey and Anus Buchan? Maak dit jou “ordentlik” om nie te vloek nie, net soos die katolieke priesters?

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        • “Daar was nog nooit ‘n onverwagte pregnancy met enige van die dogters sedert 1921 nie” . . . ?
          baie goed dan was daar wel “verwagte swangerskappe”

          En as seks so mooi en pragtig is soos jy beweer ons nie “glo” nie en as naaktheid so natuurlik mooi is, hoekom dra pornografiese sterre skoene? eh VielsikeFanie?

          en ek dink nie jy kan ophou vloek nie, jy kom uit ‘n sekere klas uit en dis maar soos julle gemaak is, ek dink dis genities

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            • The pentagram (goats head) should be acceptable to a Christian? Do not confuse “blessed assurance” with an ego trip friend. Yes some Christians do eventually grow in faith and will later on not see the devil in every corner. We grow just as you atheists do in what we believe. Praise God for that.

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              • Kwassie, mens sien dit daagliks. Op Facebook, in die koerante, op die TV en in gesprekke met gelowiges.

                Julle glo die duiwel sit om elke hoek en draai en wag vir julle om julle lewens op te fok.

                Dis ‘n spook. Daar is nie ‘n duiwel nie. Word groot! Vertel asb vir jou broeders en susters hulle is kinderagtig as hulle in hierdie kak glo. Hulle moet begin verandwoordelikheid opneem vir hulle dade en lewens.

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        • Fanie ek dink jy het soos Molly ‘n inherente fiksasie om kinders in die ontdekking van hulle seksualitiet ” hands-on” te begelei. Jy is ‘n groter pedofiel as enige Katolieke priester bekend aan die mens. Julle klomp atties is almal skreeusnaaks. Morele waardes pas julle net wanneer dit julle niks kos nie. ‘n Wyse man het lank terug geskryf ” But the most remarkable thing is this. Whenever you find a man who says he does not believe in a real
          Right and Wrong, you will find the same man going back on this a moment later. He may break his promise to you, but if you try breaking one to him he will be complaining “It’s not fair” before you can say Jack Robinson.

          A nation may say treaties do not matter, but then, next minute, they spoil their case by saying that the particular treaty they want to break was an unfair one. But if treaties do not matter, and if there is no such thing as Right and Wrong— in other words, if there is no Law of Nature—what
          is the difference between a fair treaty and an unfair one? Have they not let the cat out of the bag and shown that, whatever they say, they really know the Law of Nature just like anyone else?
          It seems, then, we are forced to believe in a real Right and Wrong. Godgegewe insig. C.S.Lewis.

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          • Kwassie-idioot,

            Jy pos die kak wat jy praat reg onder hierdie video waar die ou sulke wonderlike waarheid praat. Los nou die kak en kyk na die video hierbo. Hy praat reguit met idiote soos jy.

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          • “…jy het soos Molly ‘n inherente fiksasie om kinders in die ontdekking van hulle seksualitiet ” hands-on” te begelei.” What, Quasidote? What are you saying to me? Are you calling me a paedophile? For a fine upstanding Christian Afrikaner you really enjoy slinging mud around. Exactly where have I indicated that I have a hands on approach to children discovering their sexuality? That is utterly abhorrent. You claim to live a Jesus-inspired life, but I see nothing of Jesus in you. You come on to this blog and lose all self control, spewing slander, no manners or culture whatsoever.

            For the record, we atheists understand the original Christian message of peace and cooperation. Every human being suffers because every man and woman knows that he or she will die. I think anyone can relate to the story of a man being crucified for no sin of their own. We are not on this earth out of our own choice and life can be tough at times. We atheists are for the most part compassionate people but when you start with your Jesus from 2,000 years ago living in your married life today, that you think there is actually a Holy Ghost hovering around you, then we know that you are crazy. And to imply that I am a paedophile – or for that matter that Verifanie is a paedophile – that is so low, that is completely unacceptable. And you think you are going to some kind of Heaven when you die. Wow, have I got news for you!

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            • So now Molly I am the fine upstanding Afrikaner maar gister was ek Eugene Terblanche se agterryer….. and we atheists are compassionate people? You want me to take this serious? Compassionate people make remarks like this? “Angus Buchan, they say he “converts” men from being wife beaters and drunks to nice, regular husbands – but “nice” only as long as their wives remain submissive. Eventually the wife will not make the scrambled eggs exactly the way the husband likes it and the fists will fly again”- which you have concluded from one conversation with an elderly lady? Fundamentalism merely substitutes one form of infantile narcissism with another…..I am sure you thought that you told the gospel truth! Speaking of the gospel. ” For the record, we atheists understand the original Christian message of peace and cooperation”. No you do not. You are all a bunch of Pharisees. You think that Christians earn right standing with God but Christians profess that right standing with God was earned by the King Jesus that you deny the 2000 years ago and that makes you the sick one. Now how much do you know of the heaven that He promised in His advent? You have news for me? Like the rest of your fellow pigskins you have not only missed His Glory but you have missed His main message of salvation without the law. Romans 3:21-28. Explain NDE’s to me? Oh do not bother. You will say that the brain has some neuron-memory even after death in a gothic chior. Ja-nee ons het hulle gehoor. Elkeen van hulle. Jammer Molly, ek weet jy is nie ‘n pedofiel nie. Jy is ‘n dame wat lamsboud vir jou man gister opgedis het met ‘n lekker Litchi tert. terselfde tyd het jy die wasgoed gewas en die tuiin natgespuit. Nee, julle atties is nie drake en pedofiele nie en ek glo julle bedoel om goed te doen. My waarneming is, as mens nie fundasie het nie dan val hy regtig vir alles aanvanklik. selfs die mooi van Summerhill voor die drake sigbaar geraak het. Los oom Angus. Hy bedoel goed. Los Christene, hulle sal niemand moedswillig seermaak nie.

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              • No Quasidote, I do not believe in a heaven after death and NDE’s are still hallucinations. If there is a heaven after death, however, and there is a “God”, then at least he/she will know I was not trying to score brownie points by being “good” in this life according to the so-called Christian standards I see practised around me.

                One of the white practices that shocks me is to put aged parents in old age homes. We have such a couple of old age homes in the town where I live, all run by the Dutch Reformed Church who do a fine job on very limited funds. Most of these old folk only have state pensions. so the DRC have a big fete once a year to raise money, and several smaller fund raising initiatives throughout the year.

                Now I have been to this old age home, and the elderly people staying there are not drooling Alzheimer cases, they are just old people. Why can their children not have them in their homes or, if that is too much trouble, convert the servants quarters into a granny flat by adding on a kitchenette? Screeds of property listings on the internet advertise homes with granny flats – but there are no oumas or oupas staying there. Why is this? Do they prefer their maids to sleep in rather than their old folk? This is in a town where the townships are not far away so it is no problem for your domestic worker to take a return bus ride to and from work. I don’t understand it.

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              • …”Los Christene, hulle sal niemand moedswillig seermaak nie.”…

                Liewe fokken jissus kwassioot, op watter fokken planeet woon jy? Is jy dan totaal fokken blind?????

                Hulle rand hulle eie kinders fisies aan, en noem dit pakslae en dissipliene. Dit is seermaak, kwassioot !! Dit doen skade ! Dit onderdruk gevoelens ! Die skade kan duidelik gesien word wanneer ‘n kind se brein geskandeer word. Glo die katolieke dan nie ook in ou liewe jessussikie nie? dan is hulle mos gristene, ne? En sommer sy mammie ook.

                Dit is alles soooo fokken simple. Dit is werklik om van naar te word.

                Ek het in my hele lewe lank met my eie ohe gesien hoe opgefok kinders – en volwassenes – was wat ook gristene was. Honderde van hulle. Ek het ook uit ‘n “gristen” huis gekom. My tjommies ook. Ons het met ander gristene gefight. Hulle het weer kak gesoek met ons ook. Toe was ons nog so opgefok met al die gristen-en-dissipliene kak dat ons mekaar gebliksem het
                om te probeer ontslae te raak van onderdrukte woede.

                Maar ek het gegroei en grootliks ontslae geraak van al die kak, deur in aanraking te kom met my gevoelens en deur uiting te gee aan opgekropte emosies. Dit is heerlik om te doen ! Fok al die ou gristen kak. Dis wat jy nodig het.

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                  • Great vidclip Holey. Shows how little godiots like Kwassie know about their bible.”xtians dont hurt anyone”….? Good heavens Kwassie; on what planet do you live? Just read your silly holy book to see the evidence. Or if you are too lazy to read (as you have proved so many times for all to see), watch the clip above posted by Holy. You godiots must surely be the dumbest, stupidest, delusional idiots walking the planet. No wonder you feel so at home in your caves, howling at the moon.

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  5. Kwassie,
    Nog iets wat godiote moet leer, is om kinders van dag een af toe te laat om te se net wat hulle wil en as ‘n kind jou op ‘n seker oomblik wil uitkak of vloek, en jy het dit nodig en jy was verkeerd, dan moet jy dit aanvaar en binne na jouself kyk. Vergeet al die kak van die “eer jou vader…….” stront in daai kakboek van jou. Of so nie, nouja, gaan stenig maar jou seun omdat hy “astrant” was of iets dergeliks.

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    • Talking about “astrant” I was at the surgeon’s rooms today and an elderly Afrikaans woman with back problems was telling me how her retired husband forces her to get up and make him coffee and sandwiches the living day long and there is nothing wrong with him physically. If she suggests he should make the coffee for a change he calls her “astrant”. I asked her how she puts up with that. “Oh you know, he’s a boertjie.”

      I’ve got to go for a another spine operation myself, they fix up one thing and then it’s the next thing that has to be fixed. But I sure as hell do not have to put up with misogyny from my husband.

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      • Molly ek dink jy praat eerder van “domastrant” en dis nou iemand wie se man nie vir so lank al op pension is nie en dat dis simptome nog nie begin wys het nie, ons sal maar wag
        en ek sien jy het dit in vir die afrikaner, die Moslim’s en zulu’s is sulke pragtige barbare, maar ek verstaan dat julle ingelse nog steeds die pyn voel van hoe julle vrouens en kinders vermoor het om die boere se mag te breek, sulke lafhartige dade van die “soldate” en daai vetgat koningin, net om die goud en diamante aan die jode te gee.

        Miller iemand was een van die argitekte van die “verskroeide aarde” beleid wat apartheid na piepiejol laat lyk, en sy kleinseun het selfmoord gepleeg in die 1980tigs en die kasteel wat hy kon koop met die geld wat hy “verdien” het moet die kinders die skilderye verkoop in toeriste inlaat om te kan oorleef. Hy het net eenkeer terug gekom na die Union van sA – 1911(?) seker kom grootpraat oor die bloed wat gevloei het van die kinders en vroue toe suig ‘n muskiet sy bloed en gee hom malaria(?) en toe vrek hy ook

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      • I’m not going for any more operations on my spine, to hell with that. Physiotherapy only.

        Johann, I don’t have it in for Afrikaners, I just happened to be speaking with an Afrikaans women, and she was the one who complained that her husband is a “boertjie” who doesn’t want to make himself coffee or sandwiches. So her complaint, not mine. The younger Afrikaners are not like that anymore – at least, not the ones who aren’t “kerkdweepers”.

        So now you want to bring the Anglo-Boer war into the argument. I am not English, Johann. My ancestors had absolutely nothing to do with the Boer war, they were ruling Indonesian colonies at the time all of that happened. I have a great great grandmother called Fatima and a collection of Indonesian art because my parents lived there and I have visited Indonesia a number of times.

        I agree that the British were disgusting pigs with their concentration camps. Cecil John Rhodes, Barney Barnato, they were all gangsters, everyone knows that. But that doesn’t mean I have to hate Muslims and Zulus just because YOU don’t happen to like them – or Jews, for that matter.

        You still have that laager mentality of if someone is not with you 100%, then they must be against you.

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        • Holy, old Johannie like to project. He is probably mad because he thinks we only mock Afrikaner christians. Well that is not the case. Johannie just happen to be an Afrikaner so I mock his people. Its the samcolonial e for black christians/muslims or whatever their religion. I have even debated some of those arrogant ancient British colonial types who thinks Afrikaners are “rockspiders”.

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          • Daar praat ek toe vandag godsdiens met n vriendin vandag. Meer geluister wat sy se sonder om werklik my standpunt te stel. Sy vertel toe van die Moslem wat haar vertel het dat Christene en Moslems dieselfde God aanbid en die rol wat Jesussie en Mariatjie in die Moslem geloof speel. Ek vra haar toe of Jesus en Mohammed in dieselfde hemel gaan wees. Net daar slaan sy “toe” en word rasionalisme maar weer by die agterdeur uitgegooi.

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        • Ah yes, the good old Catholic Italians. No divorce means no maintenance, the state will take care of her. No cooking, no cleaning, a nice hour’s walk in the courtyard every day, what could be nicer?

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        • What I found very funny was when my husband went to PnP on his own recently, and an elderly lady stopped him, saying, “Oh dear, oh shame, you do grocery shopping on your own? Don’t you have a wife to do that for you?” She was obviously fishing for a widower.

          I do most of the shopping as I am better at it and I need not be concerned about some bloke like Johann coming up to me saying, “Oh dear, oh dear, don’t you have a husband to do all of this for you?”

          Unlike the Italian woman, I have not locked my husband out of the main bedroom because he needs access to bring me tea and coffee. I do most of the cooking but husband does the chopping up. Tomorrow we are having roast lamb with a paste of chopped origanum leaves, grated lemon rind and juice, garlic paste and olive paste stuffed into slashes at the top of the roast, srved with roast sweet potatoes, gravy and butternut. I get the ingredients for the special paste and husband does the chopping and blending. A little cooperation goes a long way. We live together a lot like gay men do.

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      • Johann, is jy ‘n regse dweeper soos hierdie Boere Ninja ou? Jy klink nes hom.

        Boere_Ninja

        You and so many people leave out one tiny but crucial bit of info when mentioning evolution and these Neanderthals….

        the word is theory….

        Do you want to know the definition of what theory means? Unproven facts.

        If we all sat around in a room smoked some good ganja, we could come up with hundreds if not thousands of theories.

        There was once this famed hedge fund that ran back in the lat 90s/early 2000s, they had this theory about the financial markets.

        Their theory looked good on paper until they had to get bailed out of the US with a 2.2 billion government backing.

        They are working on their next theory but thankfully not able to participate in the financial markets.

        History is what makes it possible to trace facts.

        Evolution is a myth! Animals cannot afford to improve slowly, they will get eaten. Anyone who has ever hunted animals or seen a dead animal in the veld will tell you this.

        1 week it stinks.
        2nd week it really starts to decompose
        by the 8th week it is virtually all gone.

        Bones dont sink into the ground perfectly like you see archaeologists digging up fossils. The only time that can happen when you have something perfectly preserved with all its bones in one place, would occur IF it was buried by mud, sand through some catastrophic event.

        Geologists say the last one was about 5,000-6,000 years ago – our Bible says the same thing.

        All digs/finds of these things around the world confirm that whatever happened happened fast and surprise surprise they are always buried under mud which turns to rock.

        This world is not nearly as old as these Scientists make out. Each year they have aged the world by an extra 2-3 billion years, the more they think they have figured out “earth” the more stupid they look.

        My theory of these neaderthals can be found in the book of Jasher and Enoch. Enochs book is important, as it tells you what was happening in the days of Noah.

        Our Lord said, look it will be like the days of Noah. Noah was the last pure white person, look it up – it says so. It says in Enoch + Jasher that the Nephalim were mixing bloods, all flesh was corrupted, the world was full of violence.

        I believe the answer to these things they are finding is a corruption of flesh mentioned in those books + mixing of bloods.

        These neanderthals are deformed things, look at ancient greece and mythology – half man, half beast, today they are doing the same thing its called splicing.

        As in the days of Noah, they are now mixing animals, humans and beasts. As in the days of Noah, splicing + DNA mixing.

        We can make those things today, we can make anything now playing god as back then.

        Neanderthals, evolution are theories for scientists to make them feel like gods and not make them look stupid in class when someone asks them something. It is purely Ego – man will deny God in the end.

        The answer to those theories lies in the book of Enoch, Jasher, the Summerian texts + Egyptian hieroglyphics which confirms Summerian text + Enoch + Jasher.

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  6. How Can Psychology Ignore Neurology?

    I don’t mean that neurology should drive psychology but that brain science has so much to offer therapy. We ignore new neurologic findings at our peril. For what we are learning is that early trauma leaves a trace on the gene. That trace is a marker that tells us there is a big hurt buried inside that is redirecing our behavior and is behind so many serious diseases. The traces can be observed. And far more important, they and much of their effects can be reversed. Imagine that! We can undo the imprint and reverse history and eliminate the hurt. We don’t have to guess anymore, so when psychologists ignore brain science they no longer know that history is barricaded deep in the brain, nor do they know on what level of the brain, nor are they aware of how serious the imprint is. How can we go on ignoring early trauma and its effects on our sicknesses when all new science says it is there?

    So what happens? Therapists remain on the top cerebral level and never ever reach into the messy imprint that changes the brain through methylation and distributes the pain, impacting so much of us. They try to figure out blood pressure and many other afflictions when the causes elude them. Worse, they try to undo psychosis, serious neurosis and addiction without acknowledging the causes lying literally just under their noses.

    Now here is where we shrinks come in. The new research paper by the Institute of Molecular Biology in Germany finds a way to possibly unto methylation. That is, they have discovered the proteins neils 1 and neils 2 play a major role in demethylizing cells and revert them to normal, a great discovery. But this is a neurologic answer and cannot be fixed through neurology alone; they suggest that the two proteins are instrumental in reversing methylation; ergo, it could be the answer we are looking for. But whoa, why are the genes methylated, in the first place? What kind of pain and where does it come from? Here is where primal enters the fray. Now after 50 years of our daily work on hundreds of patients we have a very good idea what the pain is and how it has settled into the system. We believe we are demethylizing through immersing ourselves into the trauma and reliving it exactly as it was laid down. That means becoming a 6 year old again or a fetus reliving the mother’s smoking or drinking. We see it and we see the effects of reliving: major changes throughout the system. We believe we alter the neurotic trajectory that would have led to serious disease later in life.

    The authors state that may include cancer: when there is a failure in resetting of the methyl marks on the DNA, it can result in development abnormalities and possibly cancer. In this way the cells lose their identity and start to divide without control, the profile of cancer. This research is advancing by the day and will help us measure and treat serious imprints. And here is where we shrinks will leave neurology. Because in psychotherapy the patient will talk about his life and ultimately descend down the chain of pain to the deepest imprint. When that happens the distortions that methylation engenders will normalize. The patient is on his way to being normal. We want our theories of the human being to be unassailable: why? Because correct and accurate theory leads to proper therapy , and the means ultimate health and longevity. That is our mission.

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    • That sounds viable, Fanie. There’s a lot of research going on into the regulatory role of various proteins.

      For instance, in back pain: the role of an inflammatory protein called TNF, and why it’s better to keep TNF production to an acceptable level rather than reaching for the scalpel:

      “Another highly relevant consideration is the increasing recognition of the importance of “chemical radiculitis” in the generation of back pain. A primary focus of surgery is to remove “pressure” or reduce mechanical compression on a neural element: either the spinal cord, or a nerve root.

      “But it is increasingly recognized that back pain, rather than being solely due to compression, may instead entirely be due to chemical inflammation of the nerve root. It has been known for several decades that disc herniations result in a massive inflammation of the associated nerve root.

      “In the past five years increasing evidence has pointed to a specific inflammatory mediator of this pain. This inflammatory molecule (a protein), called tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF), is released not only by the herniated or protruding disc, but also in cases of disc tear (annular tear), by facet joints, and in spinal stenosis. In addition to causing pain and inflammation, TNF may also contribute to disc degeneration. If the cause of the pain is not compression, but rather is inflammation mediated by TNF, then this may well explain why surgery might not relieve the pain, and might even exacerbate it, resulting in FBSS (Failed Back Surgery Syndrome).

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  7. Ek het nie die fliek gesien oor Summerhill nie, maar het die boek gelees van A.S. Niel (?) en hy was ‘n besonderse man, maar as die skool so goed is dan hoekom is daar nog net een Summerhill?

    Ek ken ‘n familie wat die kinders die vryheid gegee het, miskien het hulle nie genoeg aandag van hul ouers gekry nie, maar die een seun is Europa toe om homself te vind en het terug gekom al smalend omdat hy “wysheid” van al die draks gekry het en het breinskade opgetel en is opgeneem, sy broer het met ‘n ousie getrou en kinders verwek en toe los sy hom en toe trou hy weer met ‘n ander ousie en albei was van daai oorgewig tiepe, die dogter is ‘n enkel ma en klink darem of sy tevrede is daarmee, die pa is ‘n hoogleraar in argitektuur. Hollanders, en vir my lyk dit na ‘n disfunksionele familie.

    so Quasidote, VieslikeFanie het nie self kinders groot gemaak nie, hy het net die voortplanting simulasie gedoen, en wat hy eintlik jou vertel is dat sy ouers baie sleg was en hy het sy wêreldbeskouing in nudiste kampe in California geleen, alles net gedagtes in sy kop.

    ek moet saam met hom stem oor die “ons verdien dit nie”, van die kansel af hoor ons dikwels “is ons nie maar soos een van daai sondaars nie?”. Dan was die hele kruisiging drama mos alles te vergeefs

    Die moderator van die NG kerk het nou “rassisme” as sonde geklassifiseer, sonder om te verduidelik wat hy as sonde sien of rassisme, en nog niemand hier kon verduidelik wat een van die twee is nie.
    Net nog ‘n las om op mense te plaas.

    Willem Jordaan (prof sielkunde?) skryf ons moet sensitief wees teenoor die arme bloedjies, Mallies se boeties en sussies, omdat apartheid so wreed was, sonder om melding te maak van “it takes 2 to tango” as Mallies se boeties/sussies nie so naby aan die missineg lienk was nie sou ons hulle soos mense soos ons behandel het. Bv kan mens nie van ‘n vark verwag om nie ‘n vark te wees nie, as ons ‘n vark op ons vlak hanteer gaan die ding later in jou bed slaap.

    En Mêks de Pree gatkruiper wil nou vir ons vertel ons moet nou luister na wat Mallies se boeties en sussies sê, om nou “wys” te word, nou gaan kyk hoe lyk die res van kafrika, as hulle so “wys” was sou hulle “iets” kon wys van dit, maar al wat mens sien is chaos en agterlikheid en barbare en skelms en moordenaars.

    En so vlieg ons deur die ruimte en die tyd op die bol – die aardbol – en elke ou is die ego gedrewe superman op sy eie ashoop en al wat daar is, beweer die atijoote, is materie en dit wat in ons koppe is kan hulle nou nie eintlik verduidelik of dit bestaan nie

    En so waai die wind, my kind, alles weg -bokBlerk
    En so draai die voël in die lug op sy eensame vlug. Dis Al. Cilliers
    “alles ‘n gejaag na wind – Prediker

    Nou Quasidote, toe die ouens die woorde hierbo geskryf het – was hulle op ‘n “plek” gewees, ‘n plek in hul koppe, of dit nou ‘n letterlike plek of figuurlike plek is maak dit eintlik saak.? Dink jy ons kan die “plekke” in menslike psiges bietjie van nader bekyk, miskien kan ons ou MadMac help met sy simbool van die “Wall” om dit bietjie meer gestalte in sy kop te gee.
    hmmmm ek moet nou self diep dink, die beste is seker om na die ekstreem “plekke” te kyk, soos as iemand aan depressie ly, op watter plek is sy hoe sou mens dit met woorde kon beskryf?

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    • Johann,
      Ek is blyom te sien dat jy die boek gelees het, en dat jy Neill ‘n “besonderse man” kan noem. Leer nou asseblief iets daaruit. Kinders moet vry grootword, sonder enige indoktrinasie van bybelkak of enige ander kak.

      Daar is vandag alreeds ‘n paar honderd skole oor die wereld heen wat Neill se prinsiepe toepas. Die idee van totale vryheid vir kinders is, soos jyself weet wat jou uitkyk betref, nie iets wat regerings- en skool instansies maklik aangryp nie, want die godiote het ‘n houvas op die wereld met al hulle kak.

      Selfs hier in Suid-Afrika is daar al ‘n hele paar skole waar kinders net speel en speel en glad nie hoef lesse by te woon totdat hulle lus voel daarvoor nie.
      Dit kan gemiddeld twee maande neem, of selfs baie langer. Van die kinders het al vir twee jaar lank gespeel en toe sommer vining en flink vooruitgang gemaak met die vakke waarin hulle belang gestel het, en het baie susksesvol geword in hul besondere loopbane.

      Daar was ook geen verwagte swangerskappe nie. Kyk nou net na die domastrante logika wat jy hier probeer toepas. Jy het ‘n opgefokte famile geken……..en daarom beteken dit dat ‘n skool soos Summerhill nie kan werk nie. Weet jy wat:

      ……Dit is tipiese godioot logika. “My oom se broer se tannie se man se suster het vyftig jaar gelede ‘n buurman gehad wat nie in die gotte geglo het nie….en jissie, daar ry ‘n trok hom poer in sy moer in !

      Jy praat so baie kak oor die boere en suid-Afrika dat ek jou nie eers gaan antwoord nie

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    • Ek het weer gedink die boere-oorlog is deel van die verlede Johann. Ek het gehoop dat ons in ‘n nuwe bestel van verdraagsaamheid teenoor mekaar, teenoor mense van ander oortuiging, kleur, kultuur is en die karrakter strewe en aspirasie die inhoud van ‘n mens se deug hoort te bepaal. Die Afrikaner man word nou hier so afgekraak dat mens wonder of hulle regtig weet wat vandag in die wêreld van Suid-Afrika en die afrikaner man in besonder aangaan? In hulle Summerhill wêreld was daar die term “not liscense’ wat hulle snedigheid hier betref. Hulle utopia word vinnig ‘n hoop kak sodra hulle self aan bestaande reels waarin hulle ingekoop het, moet onderwerp. Ja die summerhill kinders kon vloek maar hulle mag nie mekaar gevloek het nie. Ek sien niks van Summerhill hier nie. Jesus bly nog steeds die mooiste en soetste Naam wat ek ken. Hy laat nooit toe dat ons mekaar vloek nie maar lei ons eerder in liefde tot inkeer en verdraagsaamheid. Ja, hierdie mense dek tafels vol kak! Ed wed jou Molly is ‘n butch koei! Askies Jesus, ek weet U het haar lief net soos sy is.

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      • Ja-nee, Quasidote ek dink jy maak asof ons nie weet wat aangaan met die Afrikaner man nie.

        Ek sien baie probleme soos bv. werkloosheid en manne wat kinders het nog voor hulle dit kan bekostig of dat hulle skei en die vroue los. Ek het nogal baie te doen met seker Afrikaners. Maar Jesussie sal hulle ondersteun en by ou Oom Angus rondhang in plaas van om vir hulself te dink. Nie dat Afrikaners slegter is as swartes is nie. Iets wat ek onder sommige arm Afrikaners oplet is dat sekere swartes beter kan lewe ten spyte van hul armoede.

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        • En jy se ons kraak Afrikaners af. Die ironie is dat ek tot n groot mate meer met Afrikaners assosieer. Daar is egter nie juis n politieke party waarvoor ek stem nie, maar ek sal nooit DA stem nie (dit mos jou party).

          Daar was mos nou weer n geval oor die “Blackface-saga” by maties. Toe gaan google ek weer en daar sien ek toe dat daar in 2014 ook so geval was. DASO was natuurlik voor in koor…..

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        • Dit het ek ookal opgelet, Gerhard. Jy kry brand arm Afrikaners wat rook en drink maar elke dag moet ‘n swart bediende agter hulle dronklap gatte skoonmaak.

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      • “Ed wed jou Molly is ‘n butch koei!”

        Nooit! Ek was nog altyd ‘n aantreklike vrou. Baie manlike fans gehad. Glad nie butch nie.

        Na ons albei die koerante klaar gelees het, het ek die wasgoed gelaai en die tuin natgespuit. Die gespysde lam braai lekker in die oond, daar kom “roast potatoes” en butternut met cinnamon by, gevolg deur tuisgemaakte litchie tert.

        As ek “butch” is, moet daar seker baie mans wees wat graag so ‘n “butch” vrou sal wil he!

        In any case, you fell right into my trap when I said my husband and I live like two gay men. I was wondering who would fall for that … I expected Johann to.

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        • Wat maak jou Molly ‘n kenner oor die Afrikaner man? ‘n Gesprek met ‘n tante wat oor haar wederhelfde kla? Dit gebeur ongelukkig maar dit is beslis nie die deursnee Christen-Afrikaner man wat ek ken nie. Net so ken ek engelsprekende mans wat dit absoluut hel vir hulle vrouns maak en rondkuier met geleenthede omdat hy skaam is vir sy vrou. Macho mans kom in elke kleur en geur voor en natuurlik hou sulke verhoudings nie. Daarenteen ken ek wonderlike Afrikaanse huweliksmaats wat alles saam doen en misken beweeg jy in die verkeerde afrikaanse kringe. meng met Christenpare waar die man sy lewe vir sy vrou aflê soos Jesus Sy lewe vir die kerk aqfgelê het. Ef 5:25

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          • My word, Kwassie, you really are very touchy about what you think that I think about Afrikaner men.

            Christian Afrikaner men are patriarchal, that is a fact. I sometimes wonder where this fixed patriarchal way of thinking comes from.

            A long time ago an Afrikaans guy invited me to his house with the promise of a nice roast lunch. When I got there he invited me into the lounge, and after an hour or so of chatting, I asked him whether he should not be attending to his roast in the kitchen.

            He laughed and said, “No, I am not going to cook the food, YOU are. If I bought all the food, you should do the cooking. So when are you going to get started?”

            Nobody got any joy out of that one. I was quite used to arsehole English speaking men slamming the car door and roaring off with screeching tyres if they did not get what they wanted from me, so I had very few illusions about males in general. They seem to be more polite these days, but I wouldn’t really know as I have been out of the dating game for decades now.

            But coming back to patriarchy: also a long time ago I dated a German guy who took me along to visit an old friend of his one day. A really OLD friend. I would guess that he must have been in the Hitler youth camp in his day. To my utter surprise, he brusquely ordered me to get into the kitchen and make coffee for them. I laughed and said, “No, I’m not German, that’s not my culture, sorry, I’m not doing that.” So he had to go and make the coffee himself. Very sour face. The German boyfriend didn’t last very long either.

            So I think a lot of the fundamentalist shit we have to deal with these days is a remnant of the influence of the German missionaries combined with American fundamentalism.

            I don’t recall the Dutch being so uptight about a woman’s proper role. Most Dutch people living in South Africa had maids, it was one of the advantages of living here. Yet married German women do all their housework themselves. I have never met a happy German person apart from my husband, they are all as miserable as sin. Were the Huguenots also so uptight? If they were so strong on their Protestant religion that they left France for the ends of the earth then they must have been very rigid. You were probably better of emigrating to Australia with those cheerful convicts who decimated the aborigines. No Bibles there.

            Kwassie, we don’t socialise with religious people, only normal people.

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      • Why Dutch women don’t fall for Angus Buchan’s crap.

        http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/why-we-all-need-a-bossy-dutch-woman-1.971000

        Why we all need a bossy Dutch woman

        When author Ellen de Bruin was commissioned to write Dutch Women Don’t Get Depressed as a satire on the book French Women Don’t Get Fat, both she and her publisher assumed that Dutch women were no happier than other European women.

        What she found, though, was that the happiness scores of Dutch women are relatively high – higher than those of British women, for example.

        When Woman’s Hour asked Dutch men and women living in London whether they agreed with the statement that Dutch women don’t get depressed, there was, as it happens, general agreement with the proposition.

        But why are Dutch women happy? Confidence, freedom, independence and equality all figure in the responses. But so did bossiness. “The women make the men do stuff around the house,” said one woman firmly. “We tell them what to do.” Oh dear.

        Ellen de Bruin attributed Dutch women’s happiness to their “freedom to make the best of themselves”. Dutch women, she suggested, are centred on their family and on relationships, even to the extent of looking down on women in full-time work.

        And they are indeed bossy in the home, she agreed. Perhaps they are just assertive, the interviewer suggested? No, Ms de Bruin, she insisted, it goes beyond assertiveness.

        So what about the poor Dutch men? “That’s the way men like it,” she declared.

        The Dutch man, it appears, is not a macho chap at all. Mind you, even though the Dutch men are probably better than the rest of us at doing housework, their contribution is still “not to the extent that Dutch women would like it”. Perhaps all is not lost.

        There is also a sense in the programme that Dutch society is simply more relaxed, outgoing and people-friendly than many others, including our own. There might be a lesson in there somewhere for us.

        The programme also featured Helena Frith Powell, author of Two Lipsticks and a Lover whose opinions, unfortunately, appeared to consist largely of a collection of cliches. Perhaps Dutch men are happy with being told what to do because they are high on drugs all the time, she suggested. Frith Powell, who lives in France, also sniffily remarked that you wouldn’t find French women wearing clogs.

        But de Bruin had the last word, accusing Frith Powell of indulging in “very gross stereotypes”.

        In the end, perhaps it isn’t all a matter of being bossy. Dutch society appears to give women and men a greater degree of choice as to how they want to live their lives. The Dutch are not afraid of choice nor are they afraid of having absolutely top-class and very comprehensive public services.

        Actually, they’re even not afraid of saying they’re happy. Faced with a microphone, nobody took the opportunity to whinge and whine about life. Instead, they seem quite willing to acknowledge and even to celebrate their own sense of wellbeing.

        The poor mouth, it seems, is simply not part of their mentality. It does, of course, help to have had a very successful trading empire at one time, as opposed to a Great Famine, when it comes to perking up the national psyche.

        Even so, the Dutch appear to have an enviable and admirable attitude to life, to other people and to society in general. Good luck to them, bossy or not.
        Subscribe.

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      • ….”Ja die summerhill kinders kon vloek maar hulle mag nie mekaar gevloek het nie. Ek sien niks van Summerhill hier nie. Jesus bly nog steeds die mooiste en soetste Naam wat ek ken. Hy laat nooit toe dat ons mekaar vloek nie”….

        ???Hy laat nooit toe dat ons vloek nie? Se vir my kwassie, hoe de fok kry hy dit reg daarvan uit sy graf, he? Klap hy jou teen die ore elke keer as jy poep se? Hahaaa onnosel

        …” Hulle mag nie mekaar gevloek het nie”… Het jy dit gelees in een van Neill se boeke? Onthou, by Summerhill maak die kinders die reels self.
        Self-regulation, is die woord wat Neill gebruik het tot sy dood toe. Dis hoe dit nou nog is.

        Askies jesussie, ek weet jy kan die kwassioot nie lief he nie. Hahaaaa

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  8. Johann, I have also know Hollanders that let their daughters do whatever they liked, and the results were disastrous. Shotgun marriages, the husbands screwing around on them, but no divorce because they were Catholics. Drugs are rife in Holland, my brother complained how seedy Amsterdam has become. I would not like to live there again as I am not really all that “liberal”. I like a very orderly environment, I don’t like anything to be messy or out of control. People must behave themselves in my house.

    Just a comment on depression: people get depressed because their actual lives don’t coincide with what they think other people think they should be or should have. Once you get to retirement with enough to live on and you never have to go to an office again, you don’t suffer from any kind of depression. It’s only when you allow others to affect you by what you think they think of you, that you can be unhappy.

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  9. Now that I’ve irritated the Christians, I will now irritate the liberals as well.

    You must have heard of Ladysmith mayor Dudu Mazibuko awarding Maiden Bursaries on condition of virginity testing. POWA (People Opposed to Women Abuse) went ballistic saying it was discriminatory against non-virgins and males.

    One argument raised in the Mail & Guardian was that self advertised virgins would invite rape by HIV infected males. So then there is no point in being a virgin, rather risk pregnancy than risk rape?

    Our Dudu has said that this ruling will encourage young women to stay away from HIV infected “sugar daddies” and get them to focus on their studies instead of on screwing and getting knocked up and/or infected with a venereal disease.

    Well, I’m 100% with Mazibuko on this one. We are not unique with the problem of unmarried women pumping out bastards for social benefits. Listen to this black dude in America laying it on to Barack Obama about what should really be controlled instead of guns.

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    • Black American comedian Chris Rock also refers to “niggers” i.e. blacks without fathers born to women with no sense whatsoever of responsibility being a major nuisance for decent black people. South African black society, such as it was, was completely messed up by apartheid but you’re not going to fix that by throwing social grants at the problem.

      I wish the so-called Christian churches would give practical advice to black people on the advantages of being married in a civil ceremony instead of by customary marriage (one man, one wife). And that it’s ok to get married at the magistrate’s court if they can’t afford a church wedding or would rather use the money for something more useful than confetti. The churches make big money out of expensive church weddings so they don’t advise this. There is a conflict of interest there.

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        • Talking about Christian insensitivity and immorality: I went to PnP at around five to get a couple of things and walked past my Bible punching next door neighbour. The one I sent the warning letter to about him and his wife invading my privacy, that they must cease their harassing behaviour instantly. He smirks like a beaten dog when he sees me. Like a snarl that disappears the moment I look back at him.

          This man is doing food and grocery shopping after work hours because, according to their interpretation of Angus Buchan’s interpretation of how marital relationships should function, the wife must not set foot outside the house; the husband must bring everything to her. They have missed their calling to fundamentalist Islam but then again, fundies are fundies by any other name.

          She has no car because they have agreed that a true wife does not need a car. She has all her medication to treat her Bible and religious mania induced depression, brought to her by the pharmacy messenger.

          They both deeply believe in Jesus and that the best is to come in the after life.

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  10. My farther in law died a year ago. He was a dominee and obviously religious. A year on and my mother-in-law still grieving and missing her husband. Understandably so, as they were married for over 50 years. The other day, my son asked her why she is still sad because since she is religious, she should believe that he is alive in heaven (from the mouthes of babes!). Her answer to him surprised me: “He is dead my boy. He is dead.”

    The story above confirms my suspicion that on a certain level the religious know very well that their belief system is make-believe. A fallacy. A made up story to sugarcoat the hardships of life. Or perhaps only the thinking, honest ones know this. Like my mum-in-law.

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    • Lyk my die hele familie is pseudo Christene of kulturele christene, nog nie een het met die ego gebreek nie en die wat met hul “konsep van God ” gebreek het dink hulle is nou die kat se snor

      Eric Berne klym dat hy sovêr as 150 jaar in ‘n familie se geskiedenis kon ingaan en dieselfde “gedrags patrone” kan vind wat die familie vandag ook doen

      “n Jaar raak bietjie aan die lang kant om te treur, dit kan dalk lei na depressie, maar . . . gelukkig . . .

      Depressie is ‘n “persepsie”?

      “people get depressed because their actual lives don’t coincide with what they think other people think they should be or should have”

      Waarskynlik is dit waar depressie begin, en dan bou dit (die persepsie) neurologiese paadjies in die brein wat gevestig word en kan outonomies af vuur en die persoon straf of teister. (Eers “mind over matter” en dan “matter over mind”)

      In my realiteit is die oorsaak van depressie die soeke na ‘n god wat ek graag wil hê en nie God wat IS nie. Eenvoudig soos dit, miskien soek ek na ‘n god wat soos “superman” is of ‘n bonatuurlike beskermer engel wat agter my aan loop en keer dat ek beskadig word,
      of ‘n ideologie wat aan my intellektueel kan verklaar “wat agter alles sit”
      Of ‘n ‘n ideologie van ‘n goeie saak om ou mense / vroumense / kinders / diere / omgewing te beskerm
      of op soeke na geregtigheid
      of om liefde (wat ek dink dit is) na almal uit te straal
      of om te “veg” vir vrede
      of hedonisme
      of om Mammon na te jaag

      Waar jou hart is, is jou skat

      Maar as mens iemand vra: vertel ons van die god wat jy wil hê moet “bestaan” dan raak hul bekke vol tande

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