Haar ma gesteek ‘om liefde vir God te wys’ – Nog ‘n voorbeeld van hoe geloof mense se breine vrot en hulle krietiese denke versmoor.

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Haar ma gesteek ‘om liefde vir God te wys’

2011-10-26 01:48

Dries Liebenberg

Durban. – Sy het haar ma met ’n mes doodgesteek om haar liefde en gehoorsaamheid aan God te betoon.

So sê me. Nicolette Lotter in ’n verklaring wat vandeesweek in die verhoor weens die moord op haar ouers, mnr. Johnny (53) en mev. Riekie Lotter (52), as bewysstuk in die Durbanse hooggeregshof ingedien is.

Me. Lotter (29) word saam met haar broer, Hardus (23), en destydse kêrel, mnr. Mathew Naidoo (25), van die moorde op 19 Junie 2008 in Westville aangekla.
Al drie ontken skuld.

In haar verklaring sê sy dat Naidoo haar broer beveel het om sy pa op sy eie te verwurg “en daarna saam met God te stap (selfmoord te pleeg)”.

Naidoo het hom luidens me. Lotter se verklaring die derde seun van God genoem en gesê dat God deur hom praat.

Luidens haar verklaring was dit Naidoo wat twee maande voor die moorde gesê het haar ouers moet doodgemaak word omdat haar pa tot Satan bid.

Sy was huiwerig om haar ma dood te steek en het aan Naidoo gesê sy sal dit net doen as God dit beveel en dit Sy wil is.

“Toe sê Mathew ek moet in my verwarde hart kyk en ek sê toe: ‘Ja, in my hart is dit God se wil.’ ”

Luidens die verklaring het me. Lotter en Naidoo vroeër daaroor gepraat en sê sy volgens die Bybel kan jy nie die koninkryk van God binnegaan as jy jou ouers liewer as God het nie.

Haar broer was die dag voor die moorde ook onwillig om aan die plan deel te neem, maar luidens me. Lotter se verklaring het sy en Naidoo hom “die koue skouer gegee” totdat hy ingestem het.

“Ons het nie haat in ons harte vir ons ouers gehad nie. Ons het dit gedoen, want Mathew het
gesê ons moet en ons het hom geglo as die derde seun van God,” lui die verklaring.

Volgens Naidoo het hy niks van die moordplanne geweet nie en het me. Lotter en haar broer baie met hul ouers vasgesit.

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13 thoughts on “Haar ma gesteek ‘om liefde vir God te wys’ – Nog ‘n voorbeeld van hoe geloof mense se breine vrot en hulle krietiese denke versmoor.

  1. Mathew 5:21
    “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder,[a] and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’”

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  2. Mathew 19:18-19

    “Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’ and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’””

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  3. The majority of Christians have never thought it God’s will to kill anyone, not even Satanists. They have not read that in the Bible. These people’s doings were not given them by God. Everyone who says, “God told me to do it”: Is it clever to assume that’s true. Could it be that these two are mentally ill?

    1 John 4:1

    “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.”

    This boy is what we know as a false prophet. It was not God speaking through him.

    1 Thessalonians 5:21

    “Instead, test everything. Hold on to what is good. Keep away from every kind of evil.”

    They did not act in accordance with Scirpture. Please do not assume that Christians do exactly what the Bible tells them. They don’t. The Bible is not the problem, people have problems.

    A Christian knows to pray for people who are Satanists, not to kill them. It is never condoned.

    Do atheists ever kill?
    Do scientists ever kill?
    Do evolutionists ever kill?

    Someone who calls themselves a Christian is not necessarily a true Christian. Is that possible? Or can that never happen?

    What this boy did is actually in line with what Satanists themselves do very often. In many cases, Satanists sacrifice somebody, many times their parents and then kill themselves. What he did is not a common Christian practice, it is actually extremely extremely rare for true Bible believers, and somewhat unheard of. Could it be that he deceived his sister and used the Bible and God’s name for his purposes?
    I really believe that he was the Satanist that had an evil Spirit inside him. Mathew the third son of God? That’s utter rubbish. Mathew was a disciple and Jesus is the only Son of God.

    John 3:16

    “For God loved the world so much that he gave his ONEand ONLY Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.”

    No true Christian believes in any second or more Son of God – the warning bells should have gone off for the girl; had she known her Bible and the gospel itself!

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  4. “Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.”
    “This boy is what we know as a false prophet. It was not God speaking through him.”

    Tracy you do know that hearing voices is usually defined as a symptom of mental and medical illness. Many people who hear voices are able to live with them and may consider them a positive part of their lives. Other people need to seek help from mental health services.

    Awareness + Research + Knowledge + Critical Thinking might help us not the imaginary friendos called god, dios, allah, dieu, gott, deus, dio, code, zot, jainkoaren, gог, déu, bog, bůh, gud, jumal, diyos, bondye, isten, guð, tuhan, dia, dievs, dumnezeu, boh, mungu, tanrı, duw, thiênchúa, … and oops I forgot the egyptian, greek, roman and celtic deities = ensovoorts …

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  5. No point arguing with this one, Juliet – so mal soos ‘n haas.

    She is as all godiots, guilty of the selective reading of a book written 2000 years ago by a bunch of bronze-age goat herders. Bet you she skips over the following:

    – 1 Timothy 2:12, “I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent.” – Wonder how Tracy feels about that?

    – Deuteronomy 22:28-29 says that if a man raped a virgin, he was required to marry her and also pay her father 50 shekels for humbling her. What do I hear Tracy? Seems you gods cherished women so much that her rapist was sentenced to…marriage.

    – Deuteronomy 22: 23-24 demanded death for a rape victim because “she was in a town and did not scream for help”. However, it goes on to state that if the hanky-panky was consensual, but the woman was engaged to someone else, she was stoned anyway…along with the co-adulterer.

    – Or how about the story of Moses’ army conquering the Midianites in Numbers 31. God commanded Moses to kill all of the male Midianite children and “kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man.” Tracey , what do you think did the soldiers do with the virgin women, eeeehhh?

    Deuteronomy 21:10-13, – according to God’s law, if an Israelite soldier was at war with an enemy and saw a beautiful woman that he found attractive, he could capture her to be his wife. The woman was then required to shave her head, trim her nails and discard the clothing she was wearing when captured. She was allowed to mourn her father and mother for a month. If the soldier wasn’t pleased with her for any reason, he could “let her go wherever she wishes.”

    – Or how about Judges 21:10-12, where four hundred virgin girls in the city of Jabesh Gilead were to be taken by God’s soldiers as possessions.

    – Exodus 21 instructs fathers on how to sell their daughters into slavery. Verse 7 gives the handy tip that she could be “redeemed” if she was “displeasing in the eyes of her master.” But for the sake of fairness, the following verse instructed that the poor girl wasn’t to be resold to “foreign people.” Tracey, shall I call your dad to start with the proceedings? I’m not buying though. Sorry.

    – Leviticus 27 informs us that female slaves were worth half as much as male slaves. Seems like this god was not only OK with slavery, but put double value on the males. Could this have something to do with the fact that the bible was written by men? What do you think Tracy?.

    – Then we get to the little “problem” of menstruating – According to scripture, menstruating females were “unclean” and to be banished from their own camps for a week. “And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean (Leviticus 15:19-20).” Lekker man – is this a world you want to live in Tracy? Quite fair, don’t you think? Makes perfect sense.

    – But of course, you will quite predictably state that your little jesus changed everything in the new, upgraded (whopee!) version of your gods’ laws. Wonder why – was he drunk when he wrote the first part? But wait, there it is written in version 2 – Jesus’s words in Matthew 5:17-18, “Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.” It also sidesteps the question of why God would continue to allow any obsolete or irrelevant material to remain in his Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth.

    So, dearest Tracy , the next time you spurt your infantile gratitude towards your gods for his goodness and mercy, just remember this: God loves women, as long as they’re silent, shamed, submissive, second-class citizens who obey the cultural and sexual requirements of primitive Bronze Age males.

    And to think this is the same woman that attacks a fact like evolution. The mind boggles at the dishonesty. My suggestion to you Tracy is to heed the command Leviticus and wander off to a remote, isolated place to menstruate….and then stay there, hopefully taking nutcases like Nicolette Lotter with you, where you can do no more harm to humanity.

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  6. Ek het al ook die sele gevoel ek wil net by die here wees ek wil nie my ouers dood maak nie maar ek wil net selfmoord pleeg ek kan nie meer my lewe vat nie ek is maar net 12 jaar oud ek wil nie meer leef nie

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